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BRITAIN IS JIHAD CENTRAL
Expert: Britain Is Jihad Central
"Britain is at War with the Jihadists, that's the bottom line" says Dr. Walid Phares.
British officials "need to cope with the reality that they are the target of a Jihad war," Dr. Phares told Jack Riccardi on San Antonio's KTSA Saturday.
Dr. Phares, director of the Future Terrorism Project at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a visiting fellow at the European Foundation for Democracy and several books on the Islamic jihad against the West including the most recent "Future Jihad," said that Britain "is one of the most intense battlefields for the jihadists, al Qaeda or not, in the whole European continent. Almost every July there has been either an attack or a foiled plot.
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I would beg to differ on one not so small point, yes we are at war, at war with Islam not just Jihadis
The battle field is intense but sadly our government fails to accept this very obvious point and still prattle on about "hearts and minds", the Government is in absolute denial of the reailty in Britain.
The Governments incapability to act as a war government is allowing the Muslims in this country to do what they wish - when they wish and where they wish, they are calling the shots.
The Government is always putting itself in a reactive position and it must now become pro-active and behave as a Government should when the Counrty is so clearly under attack.
There is however one problem with this, the Government is scared witless, scared to the point of paralysis and the Muslims know this.
And in a war, it is disastrous to allow the enemy to take the initiative.
We are governed by morons, informed (media) by morons, and generally led and 'opinion influenced'(roughly speaking, the middle classes - I do generalise, so don't take it personally folks, if you are middle or upper class) by morons.
It is perfectly normal for clever people to be morons in the real world.
What a state for a country to get into.
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it is my opinion that the "morons" are not really morons. They are following an agenda which they instituted years ago. What they are not seeing, because of their fixed focus, is that the enemy within our mist is not the enemy they percived, hence out of sight out of mind. This can only go on for so long and then it will be as obvious as a slap around the head with a short plank ala Chamberlin. I reckon they thought the right would be their undoing and wasnt covering an exposed flank.
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gandalf
I disagree. We are not at war with Islam. Islam is at war with Britain, while we are just sitting here and taking it.
Gordon Brown said this was a battle of "hearts and minds" and that it was just a small minority of people with a corrupted view of their faith that did this kind of thing.
We will leave the "tiny minority" for the moment. Winning "hearts and minds" is from the Vietnam war, and fat lot of good it there. The Israelis have been trying to win "hearts and minds" for 60 years, with the same degree of success. Then we have Indians trying to win "hearts and minds" of Muslims in Kashmir with with all sorts of appeasement, and wow, what success. Recently Thailand has been doing the same "hearts and minds" routine with their Muslims. Same rate of success. And now we have a spanking new PM of the UK. He is going to make a great succes of "hearts and minds" policy. Any takers?
All this merely cofirms that we are not at war with Islam or Muslims.
As long as we treat this war that Muslims are waging on us, as if this was some kind of advertising battle to win "hearts and minds", we will continue to suffer, and worse to lose the war.
As far as I'm concerned, it is not the "hearts and minds" of the Jihadis that that bother me; what concerns me is that we seem to have lost our collective "minds".
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Also from the Vietnam war
"Once you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow along soon enough"
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SHM posted: "Once you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow along soon enough"
I wish.
The way to get them by the cajones is to start the process of deportations. Muslims will never be loyal to Britain, or for that matter any Infidel state. In fact, they are not even loyal to a "Muslim" state, only to the Ummah or a caliphate.
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BRITAIN IS JIHAD CENTRAL
Ofcourse it is. It is the main outpost of the enemy's central command in the West. This in effect, makes it the most important CP in the world.
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SHM, defender
I think the real problem is that most opinion formers in the media, and that means not just the Guardian, BBC, etc but also the Telegraph, the Times, the Sun etc, see themselves as good people. That is, people who are tolerant and wish to do good in the world. So they come up with policies, or dont come up with policies, that dont in anyway jar with their liberal conscience. In effect they confuse what is good for the nation with their own feelings of being "nice" people.
The result is that the nation suffers, but the policy makers never see it as their fault, as they, in all good conscience, have done nothing but good.
In short, "the road to perdition is paved with good intentions".
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DP111
I am always suspicious of this 'opinion formers' stuff - opinion poll after opinion poll show that the huge majority of people are OPPOSED to the general BBC/Guardian line of immigration is good, Islam is peaceful etc, their views are genuinely held by a tiny minority - so why are they seen as opinion formers if no one actually agrees with them ?
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Piggy Infidel
We have no way of knowing if the majority of people believe the opinion formers or not. The only thing we have is that the Sun believes that it influences the outcome of a general election.
What we do know is that the MSM certainly does believe that it influences the way people think. Moreover, politicians also feel the same, and hate the idea of opposing the opinion formers in the MSM, specially if they think that the MSM represents the views of the people. As the MSM believes that it indeed represents the views of the people, politians ae loathe to oppose them. Meanwhile, the people themselves feel that if they think otherwise, they are going against the grain.
There is one case in which the people in Britain, and to a large extent the wider world, have been brainwashed by the BBC. This case, is the demonising of Israel (and in the recent past, Serbia). The BBC's reach is global, it is trusted, even now, as an honest broadcaster, and its propaganda against Israel, is taken as gospel by a large number of broadcasters, and transmitted virtually verbatim. When you have wall to wall anti-Israel broadcasts, it is no wonder that people believe that Israel is evil incarnate, and the Palis are the poor victims of the "Nazi" Jews.
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May I explain to our American and Australian friends what is happening in Britain.
We are now sliding from a state of intermittent acts of terrorism into one of continuous low-level civil war.
As happened in Northern Ireland, religious communities are polarising and moderates are being silenced.
In the face of this increasing division between Muslim and Kaffir, the ruling NuLabor/SNP elite is attempting to maintain its facade of multicultural bliss by ever more drastic censorship and repressive legislation.
The Glasgow attack is a particular wake up call for the Scots. In the past Scotland has been immune from terrorist attacks because IRA terrorists regarded the Scots as fellow Celts, subjugated by the same Sassanach jackboot.
As Scotland has regained its independence, the Marxist Scottish Nationalist Party has been keen to encourage immigration by non-English ethnic groups (Marxist definition of a Scotsman - Not an Englishman) in the same way that Quebecois have encouraged the immigration of francophone Muslims from Algeria (Marxist definition of a Quebecois - not a Canadian).
Both nations are now reaping the whirlwind, with Glasgow having a particularly severe infestation of vicious and aggressive Muslims who torture and mutilate Kaffir children (Google for 'Kris Donald castrated').
To the Muslim there is no distinction between England and Scotland - they are both Dar al-Harb.
NuLabor came to power ten years ago filled with Marxist idealism. They re-labelled stuffy old Britain as 'Kool Britannia' and opened the gates to all who wanted to enter this multi-culti socialist paradise.
In an absolutely breathtaking combination of ignorance and arrogance they allowed three million Muslims to enter the country in the belief that they would buy into Kool Britania and become loyal socialist voters. Of course many of these Muslims came from jihad zones such as Kashmir, where the divisions between Muslim and Kaffir, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, are basic realities.
Consequently, Muslims have not become the model socialist citizens that the Marxists expected, and NuLabor has absolutely no idea how to deal with them.
The BNP do understand the Muslim Problem but are unlikely to come to power sufficiently quickly to take the necessary actions to prevent the bloodbath predicted by Enoch Powell when the Muslim infestation first began.
History is littered with great civilisations destroyed by Islam. British and European civilisations are beyond saving. Americans and Australians need to pay close attention to what is happening in Britain because without drastic action the same slow decline into civil war and Balkanisation will happen in your countries.
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Best explanation of why liberals do what they do came from a Fjordman article - they use immigration etc as a kind of mirror in which to admire their own reflection, to preen themselves as being the good and enlightened people, admirable people even - "Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the most non-judgemental of them all ....? You are.
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Yes, I agree.
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Two Terror Suspects Are Hospital Doctors
Updated: 23:12, Sunday July 01, 2007
Two of the five terror suspects being held in the wake of the failed car bombings in London and Glasgow are hospital doctors working in the UK.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1273122,00.html
Via LGF.
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That puts paid to the theory that these people are socially and economically deprived. It never held ofcourse, but it has always been the excuse proffered by Islam apologists in the media and the government.
PS
Another car has been blown up by the police.
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If Muslim doctors earn brownie points with Allah from killing healthy kaffirs in an airport then what is happening in our hospitals? Are these psychopaths also killing vulnerable kaffir patients? Are they spreading MRSA?
Would you like your child to be operated on by a Muslim surgeon?
KICK THE VERMIN OUT - ALL OF THEM - NOW!!!
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Would you like your child to be operated on by a Muslim surgeon?
Not if I can help it. In any case most Muslim doctors, specially if they have Pakistani or ME qualifications are virtually incompetant. In most of these countries, a medical degree can be bought quite cheaply.
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DP
Look at the comment I just picked up from a thread on JW:
" *Breaking* (Sky) Suspects arrested are Hospital Doctors
(seems the RoP doesn't even believe in the Hippocratic Oath)(/i>
Posted by: Un:dhimm "
That'll be the two picked up on the motorway, I suppose. ... ?
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And remember that Pakistani surgeon in Australia a couple of years back who was found to be responsible for something like 84 (?) deaths on the operating table? Through incompetence and/or negligence. He skipped to Pakistan and never was extradited to face the charges awaiting him. And never will be. Wonder if he's come here yet?
Probably bought his qualifications, or had family influence brought to bear.
Libel? So sue me.
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SHM
I read this news and posted it on UP. Its a few posts above.
Even if these "doctors" have genuine medical degrees, the standard of education in the ME, and other Muslim countries, is pathetic. And I say this knowing full well, that standards in the West have fallen. We are talking here of really nil standards, as the the lecturers themselves are not really competant. Most of the knowledge gained is through rote, and then regurgitation. Then again, in most Muslim countries, courses on Islam occupy a significant portion of the curricula. It is no wonder that students learn by rote, as they do the koran. Besides, there is insufficient time left for real knowledge.
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We need to change the liberal mind set of people, and make them understand that continuing down this road we are going, will lead to major human suffering on all sides of the divide. It is with the best intentions for all, that separation from Islam is necessary.
What we require now is a person with some public presence, preferably an English MP, to make make principled arguements that the presence of Muslims in Britain will inevitably lead to civil war, as Muslims are required to wage Jihad and be dominant. This civil war will be gruesome and lead to countless deaths, and finally lead to the expulsion of the losers.
Therefore, as a matter of urgency, and with a mind to prevent needless human suffering, as has happened through history, and is happening in various parts of the world where Muslims are waging Jihad, a policy to remove or repatriate Muslims to lands where they will be comfortable in their customs, is the least we can do forestall a disaster for all, Muslims and non-Muslims alike.
The motivation for such a policy is not revenge, dislike of foreigners, racist or any thing like that, but a regard for human life, and avoidance of suffering. This policy would be applicable to only those whose ideology requires them to subjugate the other. Hindus, Sikhs, Christians etc are not within the scope of this policy, as they have no desire, personal or ideological, to subjugate "Infidels". This makes it non-racist.
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May I explain to our American and Australian friends what is happening in Britain.
We are now sliding from a state of intermittent acts of terrorism into one of continuous low-level civil war.
As happened in Northern Ireland, religious communities are polarising and moderates are being silenced.
In the face of this increasing division between Muslim and Kaffir, the ruling NuLabor/SNP elite is attempting to maintain its facade of multicultural bliss by ever more drastic censorship and repressive legislation.
The Glasgow attack is a particular wake up call for the Scots. In the past Scotland has been immune from terrorist attacks because IRA terrorists regarded the Scots as fellow Celts, subjugated by the same Sassanach jackboot.
As Scotland has regained its independence, the Marxist Scottish Nationalist Party has been keen to encourage immigration by non-English ethnic groups (Marxist definition of a Scotsman - Not an Englishman) in the same way that Quebecois have encouraged the immigration of francophone Muslims from Algeria (Marxist definition of a Quebecois - not a Canadian).
Both nations are now reaping the whirlwind, with Glasgow having a particularly severe infestation of vicious and aggressive Muslims who torture and mutilate Kaffir children (Google for 'Kris Donald castrated').
To the Muslim there is no distinction between England and Scotland - they are both Dar al-Harb.
NuLabor came to power ten years ago filled with Marxist idealism. They re-labelled stuffy old Britain as 'Kool Britannia' and opened the gates to all who wanted to enter this multi-culti socialist paradise.
In an absolutely breathtaking combination of ignorance and arrogance they allowed three million Muslims to enter the country in the belief that they would buy into Kool Britania and become loyal socialist voters. Of course many of these Muslims came from jihad zones such as Kashmir, where the divisions between Muslim and Kaffir, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, are basic realities.
Consequently, Muslims have not become the model socialist citizens that the Marxists expected, and NuLabor has absolutely no idea how to deal with them.
The BNP do understand the Muslim Problem but are unlikely to come to power sufficiently quickly to take the necessary actions to prevent the bloodbath predicted by Enoch Powell when the Muslim infestation first began.
History is littered with great civilisations destroyed by Islam. British and European civilisations are beyond saving. Americans and Australians need to pay close attention to what is happening in Britain because without drastic action the same slow decline into civil war and Balkanisation will happen in your countries.
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When hospitals have Jihadis operating as doctors, we are in really dangeruous territory, as public confidence in the NHS can collapse.
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A question for the Health Secretary
Are there just a tiny minority of doctors in the NHS who are Jihadis? And do we have to win their hearts and minds?
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Once the Dhimmi apologists start their mantras expect: "What can we do to make them feel more a part of our community?".... "Where did we go wrong?".... "It's not their fault - they became radicalised because they are so alienated"...."We need to increase our understanding of the Muslim religion and culture"..."Islam is a Religion of Peace".........etc etc etc ad nauseum
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The opinionator
You better write to PM Brown with the additional excuses he can use in his tenure in office for Muslim mass murder. At the moment he has recourse to
just a couple
1. Tiny minority of extremists blah blah
2. We have to win their hearts and minds etc
These are just a bit too old and tired cliches. He needs a few new ones.
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Blair launches stinging attack on 'absurd' British Islamists
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,2115930,00.html
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Bit late. What the hell was he doing when he was PM. It was in Blair's term of office that millions of Muslims were allowed in to Britain. His legacy, in the fullness of time, will be seen as not just the destruction of the UK- devolution, but the very existence of Britain with a specific historic and cultural identity.
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Par for the course - John Stevens did the same, while he was head of the Met it was all "community cohesion" and "sensetive to the challenges of our diverse capital" - as soon as he leaves office he takes off the velvet gloves amd starts talking a bit more realistically ... why the wait ?? These people make me despair, cowardly traitors all of them.
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Piggy Infidel
Quite right. It was the same with Archbishop Carey - all sweetness and light to Muslims when in office, and now he says it was a mistake to allow in millions of Muslims.
We are seeing the same with Brown, and all the others. You can bet even Straw will become a man of iron, once he does not have to get the Muslim vote.
Politicians should listen to the people. LISTEN. We are telling you we've had enough. These Muslims should count themselves lucky to be allowed in to a first world country, considering where they came from. If politicians continue to pander for the Muslim vote, they will lose the 97% of the non-Muslim vote. Take heed. Even Hindus and Sikhs are beginning to consider voting for the BNP, for the danger to them from Islam is greater. They know from experience.
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Just read the comments in an article in the DT. And oh boy, people are wising up.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=G4ALOQZD40FBBQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2007/07/01/dl0102.xml&posted=true&_requestid=1117668
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yep, seems like it's slowly dawning on people - Islam itself is the problem, everything else is just a natural consequence - I wonder WHEN the breaking point will be reached? Not for some time yet I fear
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DP111,
Read all comments and the article, still a number of people who have swallowed the "tiny majority of extremists who have hijacked a religion of peace" crap. However a larger number awakening to the horrible truth. Bet they won't publish my comment!
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I read them all too and another thread, it was good to see that more and more people are getting it.
They did not post my comment either...
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They didnt publish my letter as well.
I think when a certain number of letters hostile to Islam have been published, the editor does not publish any more, otherwise people may begin to think that the vast majority of natives are hostile to the presence of Muslims in Britain. You know, its a just a tiny minority of Muslims who have perverted their religion and all that, and much like the tiny minority of "right wing" Brits.
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People in Britain must be pretty stupid and dumb if they don't get it by now musn't they?
I am a Liberal myself and married to a black girl and I am not 'racist' by any means but I believe Islam is a clear and present danger to all I hold dear such as freedom. Only an imbecile would believe it is a religion of peace. It has a mission of 'peace' okay, the Islamic 'peace' of total conquest and death.
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I am ex-Liberal, and you have it totally right, keep spreading the word on why you think this, its difficult to do, because it is an extreme subject and many people think you are extreme because you talk about it, but people have been conditioned to think of this as racism and we have to get past that first, its tough.
Some of the most effective people are those that are non-white, such as Michelle Malkin in the USA, what does your wife think by the way?
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Daffers
Me too. AND I was married nearly a quarter-century to a South Asian woman. My one and only child is herself half-Asian. My wife absolutely HATED Muslims from the day I first met her. All those years I could never understand it. Of course - it's only in recent years I became knowledgable about Islam and its history e.g. 80 million killed on the sub-continent.
So Guy - it isn't a race thing here either. It's ideology. We are fighting ISLAM. It just so happens that it's Muslims that carry Islam around inside their heads. To fight Islam we therefore have to fight Muslims. It's not a matter of hating the individual. My father never hated Germans - but he hated Naziism. It just so happened that Germans carried Naziism around inside their heads - to fight Naziism he had to fight Germans.
Race doesn't come into it. What race is Islam? Is it European from Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo? Is it Arabic from Saudi, Egypt, Iraq? Is it perhaps Persian? What about Negro from Nigeria, Somalia. Chad? Maybe Oriental from Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand? Or possibly Asian from Pakistan, BanglaDesh, Afghanistan? I mean - what RACE, exactly, is it? Well it's not a race is it - it's an ideology. Next time someone calls you racist for being anti Islam, just ask them what race they think Islam is - then point out to them all the other possibilities.
Unfortunately, Islam exists in Muslims. Can't be helped and has to be done. You're not being racist. You're not betraying your wife.
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We have to push now to get the message across that we need to do something now, before it gets to the point where action will be so much more costly in terms of death and destruction.
And while we are riven with internal conflict the Muslim nations will form their Caliphate and then attack us, that is the long term strategic issue.
The longer we leave it the worse it will be.
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DP111 said,
"We are not at war with Islam. Islam is at war with Britain, while we are just sitting here and taking it."
Yeah, and unfortunately, the same can be said of the entire infidel world. A lot of us are wondering, just what does it take for us to correctly identify the enemy, and then to act appropriately?
Hmmm...It looks as if Burning Man, with burns to over 90% of his body, got his just deserts, a la Koran and Islamic hell. Three cheers! How terribly appropriate! The only problem is, those portions of his skin with 3rd degree burns also destroyed the pain receptors. Let's hope that a few pain receptors remained intact in the parts with 1st and 2nd degree burns.
Someday, I'll tell you how I REALLY feel about Islam.
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DP111 said,
"We are not at war with Islam. Islam is at war with Britain, while we are just sitting here and taking it."
Yeah, and unfortunately, the same can be said of the entire infidel world. A lot of us are wondering, just what does it take for us to correctly identify the enemy, and then to act appropriately?
Hmmm...It looks as if Burning Man, with burns to over 90% of his body, got his just deserts, a la Koran and Islamic hell. Three cheers! How terribly appropriate! The only problem is, those portions of his skin with 3rd degree burns also destroyed the pain receptors. Let's hope that a few pain receptors remained intact in the parts with 1st and 2nd degree burns.
Someday, I'll tell you how I REALLY feel about Islam.
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Hi Cubed
please do we would love to read it
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