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THE TAQIYYA MACHINE ROLLS ON
Within two weeks we have seen the emergence of two organizations aimed at promoting Muslims and the faith of Islam.
First off the blocks was the Quilliam Foundation and now we have the "British Muslims for secular Democracy" staking their claim to be the leaders of moderate Muslims in the UK.
What are the aims and objectives of this latest group, they are as follows:Raise awareness within British Muslims and the wider public, of democracy particularly ‘secular democracy’ helping to contribute to a shared vision of citizenship (the separation of faith and state, so faiths exert no undue influence on policies and there is a shared public space). Encourage religious understanding and harmony, respect for different systems of beliefs, and encourage an understanding and celebration of the variety of Muslim cultures, values and traditions which are present in British society This all sounds very familiar, the first aim I suspect is the form of words that the various authorities and Government bodies want to hear and no doubt such bodies will be lulled into a false sense of security by these words.
The second aim is more revealing, when talking about respect I suspect that this group means "respect for Islam" and that we the non Muslim community have to learn about their culture and not vice versa.
How will they achieve their stated goals:
This is their plan: my comments are in bold typeFacilitating discourse and raising awareness of democracy particularly ‘secular democracy’ and its benefits.
This is the bit for the politicians
Facilitating broad and enlightened theological discourses, to enable British Muslims and the wider public to be better informed about the Islamic faith.
This is another way of saying we are going to do all we can to promote IslamRaising awareness of religious influence on UK domestic and foreign policies, particularly those which may lead to undue effect on civil liberties.
This is saying we want you to have foreign policies that we the Muslims like and you must not do anything to stop us achieving that because it it against our civil liberty.
Addressing Islamophobia and prejudice against Muslims and Muslim communities.
This means that we will not allow you to criticize us in any way shape or form even when it is warranted.Working with UK and global Muslim and other organizations, opposing radicalism and intolerant beliefs.
This is I feel aimed at the Judeo/Christian religions after all in Islamic eyes Judeo/Christian beliefs are radical and intolerant simply because they existEnsuring that politicians and community leaders encourage and practice transparency and ensure legitimate voting practices are followed.
This is a joke no politician either local or national will subscribe to this, they will all say they do but we all know the reality.
Engaging with marginalized Muslim communities, helping to identify root causes of deprivation and social exclusion, and help work towards a solution.
This is clear, this group will call for money from the Government to pour into Muslim communities - Jizya
Providing a lively and interesting social/educational programme which showcases the variety of Muslim histories, cultures, values and traditions in the UK today.
Prosylization pure and simple, please note they do not make any mention of teaching British culture or values to MuslimsBe responsive to the changing needs and pressures on succeeding generations of British Muslims and adjust and add to its programmes and projects accordingly.
This means we can change our mind whenever we want to if it benefits the Muslims in the UK
Who is involved with this group, take a look here
I do not see many names that would be supporting the "British" corner, putting forward the culture of this land and I think that says it all
In response to articles by Robert Spencer, Bruce Bawer, etc, Laurence Auster has this to say
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/010522.html
I AGREE. There is no alternative but to stop all Muslim immigration to Britain and the West, as a first step.
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I have wondered about the very same. Do we need to be educated about Islam? Is it not clear to pretty much everybody already that Islam is a threat? Do we constantly need to be told that on page 10 of the Koran it says this, and on page 50 it says that, and Mohammed did this and that?
There seems to be a desire to excuse or explain the lack of any visible uprising against Islam by putting it down to ignorance, or lack of education. As if the moment the masses realise what is going on, they will start the fightback.
Wishful thinking? I believe so. More likely, and more dispiriting, is the idea that most people already know that Islam is a violent threat in our society, but will not do anything about it until it affects them personally. As long as it's someone else getting robbed, or beaten , or raped, well that's awful but, hey, what can I do?
Nobody really needs to have read the Nazi party manifesto to understand the Nazis were bad news for the world. Or to have read Mein Kampf, or to even speak German, They just need to count the piles of corpses generated.
We do not really need to look in books to understand Islam. It's self-delusion to think so.
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I think you're wrong, Piggy. There is still a stubborn refusal for the MSM to point out the bleeding obvious,and, as a result there are still many people out there that have swallowed the R of P crap being hijacked. On a more positive note, thanks to Gandalf and his fellow bloggers, more and more people are opening their eyes and ears. It's only a matter of time before the majority realise just what is happening.In the meantime we have to keep spreading the message.
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Urban, you are not alone in disagreeing with me on this - many people do, and they are perfectly entitled to so do so. It's just my opinion, nothing more.
Gandalf and the other bloggers do a thousand times more than I do with all the time and effort they put into this, I do precisely nothing.
But the point I am making is this - I have yet to meet anyone who really thinks Islam is the R of P, despite the MSM having pushed this line for so long. Why on earth would they? Bombs go off in London 7/7, Brian Paddick is straight on the telly, don't worry, its a Religion Of Peace. Anyone really believe him? Nope, Danish cartoon riots, BBC refuse to show said cartoona, claim it's in a spirit of respect for religion, and not out of fear of the Religion of Violence. Anyone believe them ? Nope. Same BBC gleefully broadcast Springer the Opera barely weeks before, obviously offensive to Christians. People are not that stupid.
So the MSM can claim forever that it's not a problem, that Islam is not a problem, and as long as the evidence tells a different story, no-one believes them.
But not believing them is different to doing anything about it . People are silent because they are frightened, not because they are unaware. And they are more frightened of the authorities, the police, losing their job, being called a racist etc - than they are of the Muslims.
I have never opened a Koran, because I do not care what it says inside. It would make not a jot of difference if the Muslims took Geert Wilders advice, and removed from the Koran the nasty stuff about killing infidels etc. Big deal. The problem for our future is large numbers of ordinary Muslims, voting their people into power, filling up the police and military with their sons, and so on. The Koran doesn't really have any impact on that, because it's just normal human behaviour, just people exerting their influence through sheer weight of numbers.. At the expense of others of course, namely us.
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Has anyone noticed that in response to Labour's electoral debacle, Labour and the media are continuouly parroting that it was the 10p tax rate that was responsible for Labour's poor showing. Now the 10p tax rate affects very few people. The vast majority of working people are not in this tax bracket. They will enjoy the lower 20p rate. So clearly this excuse is a ploy to hide the real reasons, which are
1. The breaking of a promise to hold a referendum on the EU constitution.
2. Mass immigration - particularly of Muslims.
Labour, the MSM ,and the rest of the main parties, are going to lie and lie, and lie again, to avoid the central issues of our time. That shouldnt be a surprise, as they are the ones culpable for putting the existence of Britain at stake.
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Piggy wrote:
most people already know that Islam is a violent threat in our society, but will not do anything about it until it affects them personally. As long as it's someone else getting robbed, or beaten , or raped, well that's awful but, hey, what can I do?
Sadly, this is very true. The other day I followed a link (that Gaia circulated) to the Labour Party website where hundreds of disillusioned & angry Labour supporters were ranting at Gordon Brown after the election results. A typical example: 'My grandparents voted Labour, my parents voted Labour and I've voted Labour for 30 years, but now I'm going to break the habit of a lifetime and vote Tory until you....reverse the Ban on Smoking!'
Yes, forget 10p in the pound, the credit crunch, immigration, Iraq War, Jihad, all that boring stuff...all that really matters to hundreds and thousands of Labour supporters is that they can't fill public spaces with toxic fumes anymore. That impinges on them personally and infuriates them enuf to reverse traditional voting patterns. Is this narrow-minded and selfish or what?
I suggest we spread the rumour that if Labour gets in at the General Election, they'll ban bacon butties to appease muslims...Just watch Labour supporters jump ship!
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You joke of course, but I would bet a pound to a penny that within the next decade some of the big supermarkets will ban bacon in the more islamized areas, nothing on paper of course, but it will simply not be sold. Sainsburys already allow staff to refuse to handle alcohol if they do not want to - how soon before those same staff start making noises about the presence of any pork products in the store? Inevitable as their numbers increase.
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Speaking of bacon - one of the pleasures of coming back to Britain after a visit to the US or Europe, is having proper bacon. Proper bacon and not rashers.
So the moment I'm back at home, bacon, mushrooms, toms, eggs are on the frying pan. Follow it with a good cup of tea (again not generally available in the US or Europe). Then and only then, can I hit the sack and rest contented.
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