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28 Jun 2008, 8:45 PM Stan Waters wrote:
Nice one. Took me a couple of seconds to get it.

Hope you don't get a jihad against you!

Stan
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29 Jun 2008, 6:43 AM Anonymous wrote:
MORE FOXES NEEDED TO GUARD THE HENHOUSE

"The Association of Muslim Police is auditing the distribution of minority officers by rank and specialism...
Some forces had very few Muslim officers in units set up to tackle terrorism or in Special Branch and others had none." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7479729.stm

Don't worry, Harriet will fix it.
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29 Jun 2008, 10:02 AM Anonymous wrote:
MORE SUBVERSION - MUSLIMS TRY TO INFILTRATE ANTI-TERROR OPERATIONS

"Senior Muslim officers warned forces last night that they would lodge Freedom of Information requests if they continued to refuse to take part...

"The letter says: 'If the police are serious about ensuring that Muslim officers are able to rise through the ranks at the same speed as their fellow white officers, and ensuring that Muslims are deployed to counter-terrorism duties at a time of heightened national security, we must have reliable data to track progress and measure success.' ....

"Among the audit's findings include figures revealing that Muslim officers were almost 'entirely absent' from specialist operations, such as counter-terrorism. It found that some forces do not even have a single Muslim working in terrorism or Special Branch almost three years after the 7 July London bombings, a move that Ahmad believes is hampering the fight against terrorism. "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/jun/29/police.race

...and a good thing too, if this is anything to go by
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jun/10/race.topstories3

...and this http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019794.php
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29 Jun 2008, 11:44 AM Anonymous wrote:
MORE SUBVERSION - MUSLIMS TRY TO INFILTRATE POLICE ANTI-TERROR OPERATIONS

"Senior Muslim officers warned forces last night that they would lodge Freedom of Information requests if they continued to refuse to take part...

"The letter says: 'If the police are serious about ensuring that Muslim officers are able to rise through the ranks at the same speed as their fellow white officers, and ensuring that Muslims are deployed to counter-terrorism duties at a time of heightened national security, we must have reliable data to track progress and measure success.' ....

"Among the audit's findings include figures revealing that Muslim officers were almost 'entirely absent' from specialist operations, such as counter-terrorism. It found that some forces do not even have a single Muslim working in terrorism or Special Branch almost three years after the 7 July London bombings, a move that Ahmad believes is hampering the fight against terrorism. "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/jun/29/police.race

...Muslims in the police are a menace, if this is anything to go by
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jun/10/race.topstories3

...and this http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019794.php

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