Mohammed - sane, you must be joking

Sebastion Faulks said -  From the Guardian

 It is absurd to suggest that the Prophet, who achieved so muchin military and political – quite apart from religious – terms, canhave suffered from any acute illness. Only a fully cogent and healthyperson could have done what he did," Faulks told the Guardian today. Hewent on to offer "a simple but unqualified apology to my Muslim friendsand readers for anything that has come out sounding crude orintolerant. Happily, there is more to the book than that."

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In response to the above show of complete dhimmitude I  post an old article I wrote some two years ago which portrays the mind set of Mohammed in psychiatric terms, and yes he really was mad
 

MIND MAP OF MOHAMMED

 

 Mo’sfriends were a little worried about him he had been behaving oddly inrecent weeks and they had persuaded him to see the local shrink.


This is a transcript of that visit, it was found under a table leg in the Al Aqsa mosque by the janitor.

Mo arrives at the shrinks office and announces himself-

Yo, I am the man (proceeds to grab his crotch and moonwalk)

Shrink- Mmmmmm, yeeeeees, lie on the couch Mo.

Mo- ok

Shrink-Your friends are worried about you mo, why do you think this is?

Mo, ‘cos I’m the man

shrink-why, what happened?

Mo-I was out there and the angel Gabriel came to me and told me I was THE prophet
And Allah was THE God, and I was his chosen messenger, that makes me “The Man”

Shrink-was anybody else there?

Mo -No just me

(Shrinksnotes-This could be a strong primary delusion ,highly personal,highlymeaningful and highly significant indicating onset of psychosis.)
score—psychosis 1 sanity 0

Shrink-Do you ever feel that someone is controlling your thoughts, putting thoughts into your head?

Mo-All the time Allah talks to me telling me what to do

(Shrinks notes- auditory hallucinations with command element, not good-score psychosis 2 sanity 0)

shrink- what other thoughts have you had since your encounter with Gabriel?

Mo – we all have to submit to Allah and did you know the devil lives in your nose at night.

Shrink – really?.(notes somatic delusions) score - psychosis 4 sanity 0

Shrink – are there any sexual problems?

Mo– hey no I’m straight, I dig the chicks especially the young ones about8 or9 years old, there’s this one called Ayesha but I can’t have heryet she is only 6.

THUD
(Shrink picks himself up off floor)

(shrinks notes – got a hot one here, if I can sort this one it could be a Nobel prize for Psychiatry)

shrink - how do you get on with other people?

Mo – OK as long as they do what Allah (and me) says if they don’t it’s Jihad

Shrink – What is Jihad?

Mo – Oh that’s where we kill those who do not agree with what big Al and I say

Shrink – (shaking slightly) is that a fact?

Mo – yes ‘cos I’m the man,( standing up grabs crotch and does a Michael Jackson impersonation – badly)

(Shrinksnotes – this one is completely off his trolley, homicidal, a paedophile,deluded, hallucinating, ego centric, score – psychosis 6 sanity0).

Mo was on a roll now and began telling the shrink everything.

Motold the shrink that if anyone falls asleep in prayers the devilwill urinate in their ears and that the angel Gabriel came to him andopened his chest with a knife, washed his organs in zam zam water, thenfilled his chest with wisdom

The shrink said to himself "Bingo, full house" and noted – visual hallucinations plus somatic delusions(again), delusions of grandeur.

Mothen started to foam at the mouth. Complained of hearing bells inhis ears(Tinnitus) and then began to convulse and sweat profusely.

(Shrinks notes – probable epileptiform seizure maybe Grand Mal)
score – Psychosis 9 sanity 0

The shrink was now totally knackered and suggested to Mo that they should continue their discussion tomorrow, Mo agreed.

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  • 30 Aug 2009, 6:04 PM Kinana wrote:
    along these lines i recommend

    Understanding Muhammad by Ali Sina

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Understanding-Muhammad-Ali-Sina/dp/0980994802/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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  • 30 Aug 2009, 8:30 PM Ed wrote:
    Of Mr Masroor Faulks says..."I would enter any such dialogue with a degree of humility and plenty of respect for his religion and his scripture; I feel sure he would do likewise."

    Faulks, within 24hrs, grovelled...the "offended ones" were quick off the mark here to get at him so soon.

    I take my hat off at his naivety in assuming Masroor would reciprocate with the same amount of humility and respect for Christianity.
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  • 31 Aug 2009, 8:03 AM Ed wrote:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6815758.ece

    Seems like the EDL have kept to their side of the bargain and those who would be more likely to welcome the 3mth ban are the ones to defy it!

    50 Officers to quell a "small minority" of 200..one officer per 4 rioters? Are we to hear now of police heavy handedness or are the figures underestimated?
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  • 31 Aug 2009, 9:19 AM Anonymous wrote:
    MOHAMMED WAS A PSYCHO AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE CLONES OF THEIR SATANIC 'PROPHET'...

    "To understand what makes Muslims tick, you need to understand how utterly slavishly they imitate the founder of their death-cult, the charlatan and false prophet Mohammed.

    Mohammed was a terrorist, murderer, sadist, rapist, pedophile, slaver, robber, extortionist, control-freak, liar and charlatan.

    Okay, so nobody's perfect. But that unfortunately is the problem. Muslims are brainwashed from infancy into believing that Mohammed was indeed the perfect man, 'al-insan al-kamil and uswa hasana' the model of behavior for all those wishing to be obedient to Allah.

    So to be a good Muslim is to be a robotic clone of the original founder of the the cult, whom you must emulate in every way, and in the process destroy your own individuality, judgement and conscience."

    "...Islam is not about right and wrong thinking but correct behaviour. ... Morality is not a part of Islam. If there is a more fundamental difference between Islam and all other creeds and religions I do not know of it. It is so alien that the reader will have to consider its implications for some time to grasp the full meaning of it."

    "...For the devout Muslim there is no place for conscience, compassion or empathy, only mobotic behavior patterns programmed by a long-dead psychopath. There is no morality to be had in Islam."

    "...The muslim has no need for a conscience, because Mohammed's example determines what is right or wrong. If he wants to rape a nine year old girl or slaughter a few hundred kuffar then he will not be bothered by a guilty conscience, because the 'perfect man' has set the precedents."

    More at http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/2007/11/invasion-of-psychopathic-mobots.html
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  • 31 Aug 2009, 11:30 AM Keiran wrote:
    These are the criteria used in research
    they are even more applicable to Mohammed:-


    Grandiose sense of self-worth
    Superficial charm
    Criminal versatility
    Reckless disregard for the safety of self or others
    Impulse control problems
    Irresponsibility
    Inability to tolerate boredom
    Pathological narcissism
    Pathological lying
    Shallow affect
    Deceitfulness/manipulativeness
    Aggressive or violent tendencies, repeated physical fights or assaults on others
    Lack of empathy
    Lack of remorse, indifferent to or rationalizes having hurt or mistreated others
    A sense of extreme entitlement
    Lack of or diminished levels of anxiety/nervousness and other emotions
    Promiscuous sexual behavior, sexually deviant lifestyle
    Lack of personal insight
    Failure to follow any life plan
    Abuse of drugs including alcohol
    Disregard for conventional moral right and wrong
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  • 31 Aug 2009, 11:56 AM Keiran wrote:
    For some reason, the post I had written prior to the last one was not successfully posted

    I am a senior specialist in Psychiatry

    Mohammed almost certainly did not have a severe mental illness such as schizophrenia.
    Such individuals are afflicted with a host of damaging positive symptoms (hallucinations, delusions, thought disorder, etc) and even more damaging negative symptoms (apathy, withdrawal, amotivation, social disorganisation, etc )
    These are the people you may see hanging around town centres or in psychiatric facilities

    Such a person would not be able to organise himself and others, manage armies and create a complex belief system infiltrating into every aspect of family, personal, religious, economic, social and legal life.

    What Mohammed probably did have was anti-social personality disorder with brief psychotic episodes associated with his documented epilepsy.

    These are the criteria for antisocial personality disorder in the International Classification of Diseases:-

    1.Callous unconcern for the feelings of others and lack of the capacity for empathy.
    2.Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
    3.Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
    4.Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
    5.Incapacity to experience guilt and to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
    6.Marked proneness to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior bringing the subject into conflict.
    7.Persistent irritability.

    Sounds familiar?


    Epilepsy is the uncontrolled discharge of electrical impulses within the brain which can cause a range of bodily and mental sypmtoms. The latter can include hallucinations (of voices for example, and delusions (of being God's messenger, for example)

    So Mohammed probably did experience some of these psychotic sypmtoms during or after an epileptic attack.
    Also he could use any further attack to claim that angel gabriel had spoken to him and proclaimed such and such. (even if he had had no psychotic syptoms during that attack)

    Nowadays Mohammed would be locked up in a secure hospital as a severely dangerous personality disorder

    Although we hate him and he has been the single biggest cause of manmade death and suffering on earth, one has to have a grudging admiration of Mohammed's shrewd understanding of human psychology and motivations.

    His Arab empire has lasted longer than that of any other great general or leader (Alexander,genghis Khan, Napolean)
    People all over the world seem to have thrown off their own culture, face Mecca, pay tribute to Arabia and glorify both the arab nation and the cult of Mohammed.

    No wonder that some regard him as the antiChrist
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  • 31 Aug 2009, 11:58 AM Keiran wrote:
    my above comment doesn't flow without my previous long post, which has been "submitted for moderation"

    Hopefully that will arrive soon

    In the meantime the above are the criteria for anti-social personality disorder
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    1. 31 Aug 2009, 3:02 PM Keiran wrote:
      my long post has arrived
      so ignore this minor post now
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      1. 31 Aug 2009, 6:41 PM gandalf wrote:
        I have no Idea why your post was caught in the spam filter, sorry about that, sometimes comments are also sent for moderation , this too is odd as I have not turned the moderation mode on, once again, my apologies
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  • 31 Aug 2009, 8:26 PM DP111 wrote:
    William Muir's theory of Muhammad

    at VFR is a short analysis of one the most informed books on Muhammed. He could do this as Western scholarship at the time was truly scholarship of high standard, and at the same time, PC was unheard off.

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/002968.html
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  • 31 Aug 2009, 8:43 PM DP111 wrote:
    Andrew Bostom's book, "The Legacy of Islamic antisemitism", has the on its front cover, the beheading of a Jewish women for apostasy from islam. The charge, as is common even now, is false.

    Read note attached "About the cover"

    http://www.andrewbostom.org/
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  • 1 Sep 2009, 7:39 AM Kinana wrote:
    Kieran
    'one has to have a grudging admiration of Mohammed's shrewd understanding of human psychology and motivations.'

    A 'leader' to be such must have followers. What was it in his followers (assuming there was freedom to choose) that appealed to their willingness to follow. I am not in your field of understanding but the word 'co-dependency' (something Ali Sina writes about) comes to mind.

    A sick leader has sick followers?
    thanks
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    1. 1 Sep 2009, 10:10 AM Keiran wrote:
      I think it would have been easy to raise a rabble of followers in 7th century Arabia. Life in the barren desert was harsh and the nomads survived by raiding each others' caravans.

      So when Mohammed legitimised and religiously sanctified plunder, slaves and rapes from non Muslims, it only pandered to some of the "sick minds" already present.
      And if one died in the name of Allah, then one went straight to Heaven and got 72 virgins, 28 boys, fruit and wine

      However, it would be difficult to condemn a fifth of the world's population as being "sick followers"

      Remember that most Muslims are so now because at some point in the past, an anscestor was converted at the sword, enslaved, raped, or crippled by jiziya and so decided to convert.

      After a generation or two, the authority and social proof of living in Muslim lands means that the descendants are complete Muzzies

      Muslims are victims of this nasty cult, too (the half who are women, gays, outsiders, those with enquiring minds, the stupid pricks who blow themselves up as well as others, etc etc )

      Mohammed's evil genius is also seen in how viral a cult he created. The following article shows how /why Islam seems to survive and flourish despite being full of hate

      http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/10/terrifying-brilliance-of-islamic.html
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  • 1 Sep 2009, 11:00 AM Kinana wrote:
    Kieran
    thanks. your comment resonates with me.
    i think it also dovetails this quote that i like

    The French historian Ernest Renan said:
    “Muslims were the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him.”
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