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What is it about Lancashire and Yorkshire
Just what is it about Lancashire and Yorkshire, why is it that the many of the Muslims who get arrested for various so called terror activities live in those areas, is it because of the high levels of Muslim population in those areas, Bolton, Dewsbury, Bradford, Leeds, Sidique Khan one of the 7/7 bombers came from Leeds and now we have another five arrested - this time in Manchester.
There is, as stated a, high level of Muslim settlement in those areas yet not as large as the Muslim population in London or Birmingham but on a percentage of population basis the Muslims in areas like Dewsbury and Oldham there is probably a higher percentage of Muslims in those towns than London
Kashmir is from Mirpur(today a part of Azad Jammu and Kashmir , Pakistan ) were the first South Asian Muslim community which settled in Britain permanently. The first of them arrived in Birmingham and Bradford in the late 1930s . Immigration from Mirpur grew from the late 1950s onwards. It was accompanied by immigration from other parts of Pakistan, mainly the north of the Punjab and the area around Attockin the North-West Frontier Province . People of Pakistani ethnic background are particularly strong in the West Midlands, West Yorkshire , Lancashire / Greater Manchester and industrial towns in South East England like Luton, Slough and Oxford .
It is well known that Islamic activity increases with the size of the Muslim population, this happens at local as well as national level.
This is what I think is happening, the Muslim communities in Lancashire and Yorkshire feel more confident in progressing the jihad against the West because of their perception of territory held by Islam in those areas, they see a strong established base from which to work.
There is a good network of Mosques and Madrassas, large sums of money are put into their communities by the government - so they are well funded
They are a good distance from London and there are many places in the Yorks/Lancs area that are quite remote thus surveillance is inevitably more difficult - they can operate below the radar more easily.
The populations of Muslims in these towns are closely knit, many are related, this will make it easier to control the passing of information and make it easier to meet, there will also be familial loyalty as well as Islamic loyalty.
There is , to my mind a clear Islamic belt across the UK, it starts in mid Lancashire and stretches past Manchester, on to leeds and all towns in between then over the Pennines to Sheffield, this is in my opinion the front line, it is on this line that the first real frictions will become obvious.
When this fracture happens, it is then that we will see the Muslims in larger cities coming to the fore in support of their fellow Muslims on the front line.
These thoughts are purely my own, this is what I think will happen.
What is it about Lancashire and Yorkshire - two of the oldest counties in this country, two of the main counties that have forged our history and in doing that have forged what this country is today - what is it, alas they are ceasing to be Yorkshire and Lancashire - they are becoming a large Islamic ghetto
Theory and practice.
Raids on suspected terrorist recruitment network
Counter-terrorism police have arrested five men, including a Muslim preacher, after raids on a network allegedly sending young men to receive terrorist training abroad.
Officers from the North West Counter Terrorism Unit began the operation at 4am raiding houses across Greater Manchester.
Neighbours said a 62-year-old man arrested at his home on Willows Lane, Deane, Bolton, taught the Koran at a number of mosques across the region.
"I'm surprised. He carries out spiritual sessions twice-a-week. He is very spiritual," said one source within the Muslim community.
The other suspects included a 52-year-old from Longsight in Manchester, a 21-year-old arrested in Fallowfield, Manchester and a 27-year-old held in Stalybridge, Cheshire.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6582086/Raids-on-suspected-terrorist-recruitment-network.html
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I wish the police will stop apologising to the Muslim community every time they arrest Muslims on suspicion of terrorist offences - it is not as if the police is at fault.
What next, will the police apologise to the gays every time they arrest a gay person.
This is pure dhimmi behaviour. Apologies should be coming from the Muslim community for putting everyone at risk, as well as wasting the resources of the police.
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A nation in fear of being seen as anti-Muslim
Plenty of people could have stopped Malik Hasan but they were too scared to do so, writes Ruth Dudley Edwards
THERE'S a climate of fear in the US among the military, law-enforcers, policy-makers, the media, opinion-formers and many ordinary citizens. A major cause is the intimidating Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which is dedicated to Muslim empowerment, receives substantial funding from Arab governments and has been accused by federal prosecutors of funnelling money to Hamas.
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/a-nation-in-fear-of-being-seen-as-antimuslim-1943905.html
Luton and now Fort Hood, are havinf=-g the desired effect.
But we must continue in our noble efforts to bring freedom and democracy to Afghanistan. It is a noble cause from which we must not be deterred by the single action of a lunatic such as Hasan.
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I'll have to disagree with you on this one DP111. It is not a noble cause to try to bring democracy to Afghanistan,it's a fool's errand. A total waste of life,limbs and money.
We should concentrate on bringing democracy here,as we live under a rotating fascist system,where our elected rulers hold the views of the people they claim to serve in total and utter contempt. The best way to deal with muslim states is to have nothing to do with them if possible. If we spent the amount of money that we currently spend on wars,anti terrorist activity,foreign aid etc on an oil alternative we just might be able to achieve this.
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Urban11
I will not be very clear.
The main threat we have is the demographic one ie the growth of Muslims the West, which has to be removed or reduced at the very least.
The question is how? How do we do so without violating every tenet of who we are. How do we do so, that Muslims leave, even as we beseech them not to leave?
The noble goal of taking the light of freedom, democracy and women's rights to freedom, cannot be contradicted for its motives are pure.
Trust me, its the only way. There will be casualties, as at Fort Hood, but they are miniscule in comparison to what will happen if Muslims become a significan minority - 40% say. If they reach 40%, it will not be just massacres and ethnic cleansing, but the destruction and obliteration of our civilisation.
Therefore our goal must be to be in Afghanistan for as long as it takes. It does not mean we should indulge in nation building, though pretending to do so, gives added nobility to our cause.
We should though minimise casualties, ours, as well as Afghans and even the Taleban, though they will take place - that is is war, and we are in one.
But we must be there for as long as it takes. It is the only dog we have in the fight. And boy is it bringing in the bacon.
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A poem of the future, looking back at us
This is by reader James M.:
STEEPLE ON A BASEMENT
They withhold tribute from my wage,
Indoctrinate my son.
My wife and daughters wear hijabs
Until the planting's done.
The bus accepts me once a week,
Its dhimmi strobe is pink.
I keep my head down in the stores
And rarely ever speak.
And I know
That you can't put a steeple on a basement.
But we've got a cemetary
We can call our own;
I guess that I'm just reaping what
My grandfather had sown.
Our history has been washed clean.
Books were turned to ash.
Pillars of our race and culture
Came down in a flash.
I've heard of greatness we once owned,
Wonders we had made.
Within our welcoming embrace
They took it all away.
And I know
That you can't put a steeple on a basement.
In this unfavored land we dwell,
There's no green on our clothes;
I guess we've just inherited
What our ancestors chose.
We live beneath the crescent, bathed
In sickly dimming light.
Would that those before us could
Have had the will to fight.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/014784.html
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Detail about the Mirpur dam constructed in 1967. From Wikipedia,
Over 280 villages and the towns of Mirpur and Dadyal were submerged and over 110,000 people were displaced from the area as a result of the dam being built. Some of those affected by the dam were given work permits for Britain by the Government of Pakistan, and as a result, in many cities in the UK the majority of the 'Pakistani' community actually originated from the dadyal Mirpur area of Disputed region Jamuu Kashmir.
So the World Bank funds a vast new dam in Pakistan and all the displaced people are given British residence. Why?
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I am in complete agreement with you Urban11. Our priority must be to restore our freedoms here in the UK and to repeal the disastrous multicultural politically correct legislation that is tightening the noose around the neck of our nation. Once that is achieved, we will be able to deal decisively with the Islamic menace at home. We must organise now in the UK and ensure that we possess strong links with those who share our aims across the EU. Thereafter, we should concentrate on helping kindred movements and parties elsewhere in the non-Muslim world to resist and roll back Islamisation. Only once we are secure in our own nations can we begin to think about tackling the Muslim menace beyond, and rendering some form of effective assistance to the non-Muslims persecuted in those states where Islam holds sway.
We should by all means do all that we can in international bodies to promote the interests of our infidel cousins abroad, but military adventurism in Afghanistan and elsewhere across the Muslim-dominated areas of the globe is not the right approach. This will serve only to debilitate our societies and drain us of blood and treasure, whilst those claiming to be displaced by such conflicts are permitted to flood into our country and wage jihad against us in the UK and elsewhere in the EU with impunity. To carry on as we are now acting is thus pure folly, and precisely what bin Laden and his ideological soulmates desire. Through this strategy of drawn-out attrition they aim to undermine the West in the same way as they believed they undermined the Soviet Union. If Pakistan, Iran or some other Muslim state should ever threaten us with nuclear weaponry, we should wipe Mecca off the map with a nuclear strike.
You’re also right to stress that we need to find a substitute energy source for oil. Without global reliance on this resource, the Saudi economy would collapse, and with it Wahhabism’s poisonous flow of petrodollars to Islamists around the globe would cease. We can and we will defeat Islam, but the fight will be long and hard. The first and most pressing problem that we must overcome however, is the attitude of our domestic media and political class, for they are promoting and entrenching Islamisation whilst brainwashing our young into believing it is not a threat. Until the dhimmicrats are neutralised, we have little hope of defeating the march of Islam here in the UK and elsewhere.
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How? Almost all Muslims in the UK are citizens, and many of them, including their parents are born here.
Are you proposing to throw people out who have committed no crimes just because they are Muslims? What
if, in fact I'm certain of it, that huge number of people in the UK, do not agree with you. What then?
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If they knew the truth about islam,they'd want them out in double quick time.No exceptions.
Take a look at the Dangerous Dogs Act. Nobody seriously thought every single one of the dogs listed was about to attack the first person they came accross. This piece of legislation was widely crititized at the time,but I'm sure attacks have been reduced since the act (although muslims, and other vermin also,but mainly muslims) still seem to have a supply of these dogs.
These dogs caused a lot less trouble than muslims,and didn't suck up vast amounts of welfare payments.
Safest thing is to assume muslims are savage animals and remove the lot.
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Hello DP111
How? Your question is framed in such a manner as to suggest that I wished to unleash some sort of pogrom upon the Muslim population of the UK. This is far from the case. As I made clear in my comment, combating and rolling back Islamisation will be a long and difficult process, but if it is to stand any chance of success, our first (and by no means insignificant) objective must be to bring about a sea change in public opinion with respect to the nature of Islam, so that it is generally recognised to be a hostile, imperialistic totalitarian ideology. Your question is hard to answer in a concise fashion, and given that the comments section limits replies to 3,000 characters, I shall provide an outline answer on my blog. So, please look there over the coming few days.
We are agreed upon the nature of the problem, but as for the solution, I am sure that there is no single one. General approaches and strategies can be broadly delineated, but the selection of particular methods and tactics should be conditioned by the environment in which we operate, and the measures of success that we set ourselves. If we spread our efforts too broadly, we shall fail.
I therefore welcome a debate in which we may suggest and analyse potential solutions and their application. This can only be for the good of us all, but at the same time, we must remember to continue to act in whatever peaceful way we can to advance our general agenda and cause. Our enemies wage total war against us, whilst we fight with our hands tied behind our backs, and leave our borders open so that our foes are able to set up camp within our own nations. Such a policy is suicidal. The methods of the current military intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq are blunt and unfocused. It lacks clear objectives, and possesses no clear ideological underpinning. This approach is manifestly failing, for Islam is growing stronger and more entrenched in the UK, the EU, North America and globally. I am not saying that there is no place for a military element to strategy, but the manner in which it is being employed today weakens rather than strengthens us.
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Urban11, Durotrigan
our first (and by no means insignificant) objective must be to bring about a sea change in public opinion with respect to the nature of Islam,
Good, that is the way forward, and I'm all for it.
You admit that it going to take a long time? How long 50 years - in the teeth of opposition from the Left and Liberals, who see Islam as the catalyst to destroy the West. Fifty years is too long. By then Muslims will have sufficient numbers to have a majority in parliament. Besides these Muslims will be born citizens, from parents and grandparents who themselves will have been born in Britain. Even if you could achieve a sea change, there is nothing that can be done short of a disastrous civil war, with no certainty of victory. Even a victory will be Pyrrhic.
Can you not see that Obama is desperate to get out of Afghanistan?
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Urban11, Durotrigan
Bear in mind that the main threat is the demographic one, no matter what everyone says. It is this that has to be reduced to insignificant numbers- the quicker the better.
There is also the difficulty that most of them are British, and now EU citizens, many of them born in the UK. Therefore the problem has to be addressed EU wide and not just Britain. Just because you may somehow make a sea change in the preception of Islam (I hope you have the BBC on your side), still will not affect the EU situation.
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I suspect Tower Hamlets will catch up fast. Bangladesh is becoming increasingly Talibanised and the effects are being seen in the UK.
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You are right - time is not on our side. The Muslim population is increasing ten times faster then any other.
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