Wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen. or the World cannot afford Africa - but it has to

Wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen. or the World cannot afford Africa - but it has to

Aaah the climate change season is upon us, the so called World leaders, the great and the good are meeting in Copenhagen to discuss and try and solve the climate warming phenomenon.

The planet Earth has over many millenia heated up and cooled down, up and down, up and down, this is quite normal - anybody remember the ice age? it got a bit cold then.

The great and the good want us to believe that it is the activity of humankind that is causing all the planets ailments, and as a result we have to fund all initiatives designed to "save the planet", this of course means taxation.

We are told, by "experts" no less, that the most serious effects of "global warming" are found in the "undeveloped world", therefore much of the money raised by taxing us will go into the so called "economies" of those countries.

By far the largest recipient of our taxes will be Africa.

Tha African countries have demonstrated time and time again that they are incapable of self sustainment, incapable of progressing and it has to be said - developing, they just cannot do it

If we look back over the past 500 years and evaluate the resources that have been put into Africa by many European nations it will be a colossal amount of money, expertise, infrastructures and despite all of this input Africa remains largely unchanged.

Huge amounts of money are again to be poured into this continent - why? I think this has absolutely nothing to do with "Global warming"

Africa is a failed continent, Africa is also unable to feed itself, Africa is always on the verge of famine and drought, in Ethiopia a few years ago there was a drought, this led to a marked reduction in the limited amount of food they could produce - this led to famine, the world responded and millions of dollars worth of aid poured in.

After the famine the population of Ethipoia was about 40 million, since that time nothing has happened in Ethiopia to improve their ability to respond should such another famine occur - except that the population is now around 77 million - it has doubled in approximately 30 years.

I would suggest that similar rises in population have occurred in most other African countries.

What does this mean for the UK and Europe, there will not be enough food to sustain the people in Africa so what will they do?, they will leave Africa, where will the go ? you've guessed it EUROPE. that means  the UK as well.

The diaspora would be huge, far larger than the Mongol diaspora many centuries ago, this influx would create huge problems in Europe.

The UK already has to import one third of the food needed to sustain the population, any large influx would create food shortages here and a similar pattern would be seen across Europe, in addition to this the socio- economic pressures would be immense and lead to very unpleasant situations arising in the European land mass.

What to do, the answer appears to be in global warming, a beautiful excuse to raise our taxes which are in turn given to Africa in order to keep the people there, we are effectively supporting the African continent, we are paying the African people to stay at home - in Africa.

Many will say that Africa is moving forward - I personally do not see any evidence of that.

The reality is that the World cannot afford Africa, the population of Africa is the only thing that is growing on that continent - they are very good at producing more mouths to feed without developing the means to feed and support them.

Gordon Brown has called the people who do not accept that humankind is the sole responsible agent for global warming the "new flat earth" people.

This statement might have some resonance if it came from a credible source, however coming from a man who, with his buddy T Blair, have successfully sold of the UK to foreign powers, screwed millions of peoples pensions, disseminated the UK industry, allowed millions of  immigrants into the country, completely trashed the economy, put the taxpayer in to debt for billions and is not even elected to boot, does not lend any credibility at all to anything he says.



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  • 5 Dec 2009, 3:26 PM Arthur Wood wrote:
    All these meetings are just a joke. A beanfeast for all the participants.
    What really needs to be done, is to limit and cut back on the worlds population. Its getting too full - especialy for us in the UK!
    The only ones to actually do anything were the Chinese, with their 'one child per family.'
    No one has the guts to say that there are too many people around. If not, we will get wars fought over the earths dwindling resources.

    Arthur
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  • 5 Dec 2009, 8:14 PM xoggoth wrote:
    True, but Africa is not the only basket case, look at Nepal (4bn international aid has sunk without trace there), the Philippines, Haiti, N Korea or Bangladesh.

    I see a minister of the last has called for us to open our doors to Bangladeshis displaced by climate change. That will be great, 60% here in social housing is it? One of the biggest recipients of welfare of all ethnic groups? They were at least well behaved a few years ago but that seems to be changing fast.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/30/rich-west-climate-change

    Oh yes, he wants us to take in those from the Maldives too, that well known tolerant Islamic country where no other religion is allowed.
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  • 6 Dec 2009, 8:27 PM DP111 wrote:
    Re: AGW: What so vital that putting the economic base of the West in jeopardy, is worth it?

    Looking at this strategically, I can think of two reasons

    1. The effective colonisation of Africa by China puts a potential superpower on the doorstep of Europe and NATO. Thus the money raised by the AGW scam can be given to Africa, to prevent African nations becoming complete puppets of China.

    2. The population of Africa is increasing by leaps and bounds, with no equivalent increase in the GNP – in some cases the GNP is actually decreasing. It is therefore quite likely, that there will be a major famine, or a succession of famines in Africa, leading to mass movements of population to Europe and America. In fact, it is quite openly stated, that AGW will cause major famines to occur in Africa.

    Such a mass movements of population, due to famine or abject poverty, would be morally impossible to resist. If this happens, then the entire demographic and political structure of the West will collapse.

    It is not just Africa but a whole slew of third world states that are going to be affected by their rapid growth of populations. A few that come to mind are – Indonesia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and most of the non-oil exporting countries. All of these nations have shown no indication of being able to cope with their rapidly growing populations.

    The pressure on resources – agriculture and water, are going to cause food shortages with increasing frequency, as well as famine. This will result in movement of populations over a time scale. I can’t see how our liberal or Christian morality is going to prevent such movement to the West. If this happens, then the entire demographic and political structure of the West will collapse. This is certainly a strategic threat of sufficient magnitude to warrant an AGW scam to avert a catastrophe.
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  • 6 Dec 2009, 8:28 PM DP111 wrote:
    Three further points to note.

    1.It is quite openly stated, that “AGW” will cause major famines to occur in Africa, and it is for this reason that large amounts of money are to be gifted.

    2. The West has had an open door immigration policy for the last decade. Is this policy in place to relieve the population pressure in the Third world?

    3. There already is a EU policy in effect that relies on ME nations bordering the Mediterranean to police and stop the “boat” people. In fact we are paying Libya, and possibly Algeria and Egypt, to act as buffer states. However, if large-scale famines occur, then I don’t see how such a buffer will hold.

    Now #2 and #3 are in contradiction. However #2 is controlled to an extent, while #3 is invasion.

    I posit that this could be a reason why the AGW scam is necessary, to give huge amounts of money as outright gifts, for the foreseeable future, i.e., to camouflage the reality that African and other Third world states are unable to cope with their increasing populations. Not to do so would invite a demographic and political catastrophe for the West.

    Immigration is becoming increasingly unpopular, and it isd not beyond the bounds of possibility that immigration will be restricted. But politicians realise that the population pressure in Third World will be so immense, that immigration restrictions will not work. There is thus a race on – to get the AGW tax scam in operation BEFORE immigration restrictions are in force.
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  • 6 Dec 2009, 8:55 PM DP111 wrote:
    Don't let ‘Climategate' melt down your portfolio

    If someone is pushing a theme for investing, check to see how they might profit from it

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/investment-ideas/features/the-buy-side/dont-let-climategate-melt-down-your-portfolio/article1389653/
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  • 7 Dec 2009, 11:45 AM DP111 wrote:
    Saving the planet means giving Australia a miss:

    AUSTRALIAN Tourism is taking a pounding by the new UK “climate” tax… Despite industry opposition, Prime Minister Gordon Brown introduced a 112 per cent rise in a passenger duty, slugging a family of four wanting to fly to Australia with up to $700 in fees and charges.

    The airline industry has hit back with new figures showing airlines operators have cancelled more routes and flights out of London than any other city in Europe, including a dozen flights Down Under…

    A spokesman for the Treasury claimed that the tax, which increases the greater distance you travel making Australia the most expensive, was fair.

    “Air Passenger Duty is an important contributor to the public finances, while helping the Government to achieve its environmental goals,’’ he said.
    --------------------------
    G Brown is intent in destroying Britain at every level.
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  • 8 Dec 2009, 12:18 PM DP111 wrote:
    The AGWarmist gang's only defence for the fraud is that the evidence was obtained illegaly, and is therefore, in their view inadmissable. I'm afraid this won't wash. We are not talking here of a crime by an individual, but a conspiracy to defraud the public by a taxpayer funded body.

    In Britain, the police have the right to examine a car or enter a home, if they honestly and reasonably believe that a crime is in progress. At CRU, as the WSJ puts it, "At a minimum, the emails demonstrate the lengths some of the world's leading climate scientists were prepared to go to manufacture the "consensus" they used to demand drastic steps against global warming. The emails are replete with talk of blacklisting dissenting scientists and journals, manipulating peer review and avoiding".

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704007804574574053846536712.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

    Considering the staggering amounts of money that the Carbon Credit Carpet Baggers (CCCBs), intend to embezzle from the public purse for the forseeable future, this is a crime of monumental proportions, and as such, even if their was a hack at UEA, it is justified by "reasonable suspicion". As it turns out, "reasonable suspicion", was well warranted.

    In any case, as the post at "Small dead animals" shows,

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/012827.html

    there is ample reason to believe that it was not a hack, but the act of a public spirited individual.
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  • 8 Dec 2009, 9:23 PM DP111 wrote:
    Copenhagen conference in ‘disarray’

    TALKS at the United Nations climate change conference in Copenhagen have broken down over leaked documents indicating that wealthier nations would be given more power in future climate change negotiations.

    The documents seem to allow a handful of rich countries to have larger emissions and more control over future talks within a “circle of commitment” and have enraged delegates from developing countries.

    The US, UK, and Denmark are among the countries included in the so-called “Danish text.”

    The document also sets unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.

    The secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as “the circle of commitment” – understood to include the UK, US and Denmark - has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week, The Guardian reports.

    The agreement, leaked to the paper, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol’s principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act.

    The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.

    The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as “a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks”, the paper reports

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/08/more-leaks-copenhagen-in-disarray/
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  • 8 Dec 2009, 9:45 PM DP111 wrote:
    In Britain, the police have the right to examine a car or enter a home, if they honestly and reasonably believe that a crime is in progress. At CRU, as the WSJ puts it, "At a minimum, the emails demonstrate the lengths some of the world's leading climate scientists were prepared to go to manufacture the "consensus" they used to demand drastic steps against global warming. The emails are replete with talk of blacklisting dissenting scientists and journals, manipulating peer review and avoiding".

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704007804574574053846536712.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

    Considering the sraggering amounts of money that the Carbon Carpet Baggers (CCBs), intend to embezzle from the public purse for the forseeable future, this is a crime of monumental proportions, and as such, even if their was a hack at UEA, it is justified by "reasonable suspicion".

    As the post at "Small dead animals" shows,

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/012827.html

    there is ample reason to believe that it was not a hack, but the act of a public spirited individual.

    AND

    A senior geologist drilling off the New Zealand coast has called for the United Nation's International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to be "killed".

    "The IPCC's incompetence is manifest in its failure to detect the corrupt science that has for so long permeated the activities of the international jetsetters of the climate science power group," Professor Bob Carter, of James Cook University in Townsville, told the ABC

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/6562679/scientist-drilling-off-nz-drills-ipcc/
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  • 8 Dec 2009, 9:54 PM DP111 wrote:
    The plot gets thicker

    Woman Who Invented Credit Default Swaps is One of the Key Architects of Carbon Derivatives, Which Would Be at the Very CENTER of Cap and Trade

    I have pointed out that (1) the giant banks will make a killing on carbon trading, (2) while the leading scientist crusading against global warming says it won't work, and (3) there is a very high probability of massive fraud and insider trading in the carbon trading markets.

    Now, Bloomberg notes that the carbon trading scheme will be centered around derivatives:

    The banks are preparing to do with carbon what they’ve done before: design and market derivatives contracts that will help client companies hedge their price risk over the long term. They’re also ready to sell carbon-related financial products to outside investors.



    [Blythe] Masters says banks must be allowed to lead the way if a mandatory carbon-trading system is going to help save the planet at the lowest possible cost. And derivatives related to carbon must be part of the mix, she says. Derivatives are securities whose value is derived from the value of an underlying commodity -- in this case, CO2 and other greenhouse gases...

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/woman-who-invented-credit-default-swaps-one-key-architects-carbon-derivatives-which-would-be
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