Bradford EDL demo - a very predictable outcome

The media is full of it, yesterdays' EDL demo in Bradford that is, the reporting is all of the same vein - negative and showing as much violence as it can - this was predictable.

I do not claim that there is no violent element in the ranks of the EDL, there are bound to be those elements in any disparate organization , however that being said  we must look at the scenario that was constructed by the Police for the arrival of the EDL protesters.

The scene was set by the police and managed by the police.

The EDL marchers were herded into a compound, a compound of limited space, this was done to prevent any clashes between the EDL and the UAF.

Very few images of the UAF are shown in the media coverage - the images are all of EDL protesters - why is this?

Violence was inevitable primarily because the EDL had been kettled, this blocking off of all normal human amenities such as toilets does not make for a peaceful march.

Secondly the close proximity of the marchers of the EDL to each other will have produced responses within the marchers themselves that arise because of the invasion of their personal space. This can lead to violence.

It is a normal response to want to escape close confinement - to re-establish your own personal space, we have all seen the effects when people are crowded together and they start to feel threatened and anxious - they want out the most tragic example of this was the Hillsborough disaster.

You may ask - why does aggression  happen to a lesser degree in mass marches - people in mass marches can remove themselves at any time from the mass of other people, secondly as we can control who we have in close proximity  to ourselves thus surrendering our personal space for a short time, and then when felt necessary expanding it  to a more comfortable zone  by moving and creating more individual space.

When people are confined or kettled none of the above apply - the people cannot remove themselves from the invasive crowding - agitation will start - frustrations will mount and violence will happen.

The press photographed the breakout of the EDL from the paddock they were contained in, ALL photos were taken in such a way to show or give the impression that the streets were full of rioters, All photos were close in and tight to the subject thus giving the viewer no sense of scale, the camera does lie - quite often.

The above does not mean that the EDL were totally blameless in this instance, but the cards were stacked against them from the start, they walked into a situation that was engineered to produce a violent aggressive response, they must learn to avoid this, they must also take firm control over those whose primary aim is violence.

Future marches MUST be choreographed, they must be led, clear instructions given to the marchers and the marchers must be made aware of the effects on them of being confined in small spaces against their will.

Above all the EDL must take the protest to a higher level, the intellectual battle has to be engaged, their spokesmen must be prepared for the press.

I personally commend the EDL for their actions against Islam and all it entails, I can understand the frustrations that some of the marchers feel and these frustrations then boiling over into violence - I can understand it, but those emotions MUST be controlled otherwise credibility will disappear. The EDL MUST rid themselves of any kind of reference to the NAZI mindset, fascist salutes are not welcome in the UK, too many people died in order to stop that very thing

Here is one coverage out of many , please note how close in the photographs are and equally as important the selective subject matter:-

I have included some of the comments made on this article

Bottles, stones and smoke bomb hurled during English Defence League demonstration in Bradford

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:40 PM on 28th August 2010


  • Five people arrested as police erect barricade

Violence broke out today at a controversial city centre demonstration by far-right group the English Defence League.

EDL supporters threw bottles, cans, stones and three smoke bombs at opponents gathered in Bradford, West Yorkshire.

Nearly 100 supporters of the far-right group then climbed over a temporary eight-foot barricade - aimed at keeping them inside the city's Urban Gardens - to get on to neighbouring waste ground from where they threw missiles at police.

Bradford protest: Police face off with English Defence League supporters as they try to separate them from an opposing group of anti-fascist protesters

Bradford protest: Police face off with English Defence League supporters as they try to separate them from an opposing group of anti-fascist protesters

Tensions: Police grapple with an EDL supporter in Bradford today

Tensions: Police grapple with an EDL supporter in Bradford today

Bloody: One EDL supporter is helped by police after suffering a head wound in the violence

Bloody: One EDL supporter is helped by police after suffering a head wound in the violence

As the skirmishes were breaking out in the gardens, nearly 300 people gathered for an alternative event hosted by Unite Against Fascism/We Are Bradford about half a mile away at the Crown Court Plaza.

West Yorkshire Police said five people were arrested. One person was taken to hospital for treatment to a leg injury.

The EDL supporters met in Halifax before travelling to Bradford on buses under police escort for the static demonstration.

Members had travelled from many towns and cities across England, including Hull, Merseyside, Manchester, Stoke, Southport, Dudley, Wigan and Stockport.

Crossing the line: EDL supporters in hats, hoods and balaclavas hurl missiles at police in Bradford today

Crossing the line: EDL supporters in hats, hoods and balaclavas hurl missiles at police in Bradford today

More protesters throw missiles at police. At times the scene on a building site near the demonstration looked more like a war zone in Iraq or Bosnia

More protesters throw missiles at police. At times the scene on a building site near the demonstration looked more like a war zone in Iraq or Bosnia

Police square off against demonstrators today

Police square off against EDL demonstrators today

Only one entrance to the gardens was open and protesters had to pass through metal detectors to gain entry.

The West Yorkshire force received support from neighbouring forces, including Greater Manchester, Northumbria and Humberside.

Police said around 700 people had gathered in and around the venue, as a heavy police presence ensured trouble would be kept to a minimum.

Beyond the heavy police guard, opponents of the EDL gathered to hold their own demonstration and the two groups traded insults with each other.

One EDL supporter, a Muslim called Abdul Salaam, 40, from Glasgow, was escorted into the gardens by police under a chorus of shouting from opponents.

Unravelling a Glasgow Rangers flag, he asked reporters: 'Why are they against the United Kingdom?

English Defence League supporter
English Defence League supporter

EDL supporters have clashed with police officers after a temporary wall was erected

'Islam doesn't teach you hatred, it teaches you peace. These people are hypocrites, they are not true Muslims.'

Another EDL member said: 'It's not about being white and proud, it's about being English and proud.'

When trouble flared, police pushed the EDL members away from the edge of the barricade towards the centre of the gardens, while their opponents were moved into neighbouring streets.

Then the far-right group held a rally as police in riot gear held their line.

Skirmishes broke out between EDL supporters and their own stewards, who stood in front of the police.

Ahead of today's demonstrations, events were held yesterday to urge people in the city to unite.

Bradford Together organised a peace vigil which took place outside the council offices in Jacobs Well.

Bradford Women for Peace also held an event at Ivegate in a show of 'peace, unity and solidarity'.

Supporters of the EDL have been protesting through the day in Bradford after Home Secretary Theresa May banned their original march through the city

Supporters of the EDL have been protesting through the day in Bradford after Home Secretary Theresa May banned their original march through the city

Smoke bomb: Police officers were shrouded in smoke from canisters thrown by supporters of the English Defence League during the demonstration

Smoke bomb: Police officers were shrouded in smoke from canisters thrown by supporters of the English Defence League during the demonstration

EDL

Flash point: EDL supporters gather in Bradford ahead of the demonstration which descended into violence

The calls for peace came amid fears that today's demonstrations could have provoked a violent reaction to rival the 2001 Bradford riots, where 191 people were given sentences totalling more than 510 years.

Initially the EDL intended to march in Bradford with a planned protest by Unite Against Fascism on the same day.

A high-profile campaign was started to stop the EDL march and a 10,000-signature petition opposing it was handed to the Home Office.

Home Secretary Theresa May was asked to authorise the ban by Bradford Council.

It came after West Yorkshire Police's Chief Constable, Sir Norman Bettison, wrote to the council requesting an order to prohibit any public processions over the August Bank Holiday weekend.

A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said tonight: 'At this stage there has been five arrested as part of the operation.

'Police are currently working to ensure the protesters leave the city and we will continue to have a high-profile presence to reassure the people of Bradford.

'We thank people for their patience and support so far and we hope to have protesters removed from the city as soon as possible.'

 

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Fascism has a new name: "Anti-Fascism"

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Be carefull what you say about the UAF,you'll be branded as racialy discriminating!
These UAF members are obviously proud to be part of thier group,so proud that they are affraid to show thier faces.I think that just about sums up the integraty of those people,spineless extreamists bent on controling this country.
Civil unrest is on it's way people.

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Britain is being steadily Islamised! Our Christian culture and traditions are in great danger! Our goverment should follow the footsteps of their Australian collegues. Quote (Prime Minister John Howard - Australia): 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture.

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Why were they stopped from entering the city centre?
When muslims gather to abuse our soldiers coming home from war -they are allowed free speech. Even when there are funeral processions of dead heroes - they are allowed to hurl abuse.
We are supposed to be in a country that allows free speech - but it would seem to only apply to foreign ethnic groups.

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i am starting to agree with the edl as the politicos just will not listen so it seems the only way is to take to the streets to stop the crazy immigration that the establishment want regardless of what we want,some democracy this is!

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I spent time in the Middle East and I took an interest in the region and the culture.

I can honestly say, that in the last 8 years or so I am witnessing Sharia Law and Sharia principles creeping in by the back-door in this country, being demanded by sections of the Pakistani community and organisations caving in and giving them what they want.

This is true in the Banking sector, personal dispute resolution and more recently Muslim Lawyers here in the UK making demands for further legislation to be implemented to benefit them.

I do not condone violence or racism.

But we should be able to take a hard, objective look about what's going on and discuss it openly and accurately.

The question needs to be asked "Do you really want the UK to adopt the principles of Saudi Arabia?".
"Is this really what we want?".

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