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I they will murder their own - they will murder us

2010-09-01T17:47:00Z

Leaflets have been handed out to Muslims by other so called extremist Muslims urging them to kill the Ahmadiyya, this did not happen in Pakistan or any other totally Muslim state - it happened in Surrey, leafy Surrey, the leaflets are very explicit

A police investigation was launched last month

, afterpolice saw leaflets being handed out calling on Muslims to murderQadiyanis, a derogatory term for Ahmadiyya Muslim...

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Ateenage Ahmadiyya girl, who did not want to be named, said she was"shaken and scared" after being handed a leaflet written in Urdu saying:"kill a Qadiyani and doors to heaven will be open to you."

This month of course is Ramadan, and in keeping with the teachings of the Koran Muslims have embarked upon a campaign of spreading the word of the prophet Mohammed, they have not only spread the word they have backed it up by deed as well, this benevolence has been shown throughout Ramadan in all Islamic countries - like Pakistan where the benevolence shows no bounds Pakistan bomb attacks leave 14 dead and 100 injured in Shia procession such is the Religion of peace

In America the Muslims are going down the road of "we really do not want to kill you" advertising:-

American Muslims Unveil Suspiciously Un-Muslim ‘We Won’t Kill You’ Ad

Theterrorist group that has claimed responsibility for this ad campaigncalls itself “My Faith My Voice.” Some of you might be thinking, “Iwatched the entire video and there were like zero beheadings. Whatgives?” My Faith My Voice has taken a different approach to fightingAllah’s enemies. Instead of videotaping the white infidels they behead,they videotape themselves telling lies about Islam and Muslims, so that you will be off guard when they strike next:

Muslims kill their own therefore they will have no qualms about killing somebody who is not a Muslim, it will mean that they will have an open ticket to paradise.

The police in Surrey are investigating the leaflets that urge Muslims to kill, I do not hold out much hope of them finding and prosecuting anybody.

If this were not Muslims who were putting out this death threat but a British non Muslim organization the police would have already identified , arrested and probably prosecuted the people concerned, the National press would have been alive with this story

The Pakistani connection cannot be ignored, what happens in Pakistan will inevitably happen in the UK - we as you know have a LARGE Pakistani population.

The continual pronouncements of peaceful co-existance emanating from the Muslim community in the UK is now very predictable and very tiresome and once again the BBC is in the forefront of handing out this propaganda:-

From the Telegraph

Since we exposed some of what actually goes on inside this mosque,there has been a welcome reduction in the number of politicians andsuchlike prepared to visit. But one key part of liberal Britain, theBBC, retains a trusting faith in the mosque’s spin that no amount ofcontrary evidence appears able to shake.

In March, as I wrote here, the BBC allowed its flagship discussion programme, Any Questions,to be hijacked by the mosque. That could, conceivably, have beencarelessness. But last week the Corporation went one step further. ItsBBC1 documentary on the East London Mosque, Middle East Enders (available to watch here for another day) was quite simply a licence-fee-funded, half-hour advertorial.

The UK has it's own left wing alliance with the Muslims in the UK, the same is happening in America, when it comes to Islam then it is fair to say - what happens in the UK will happen in America - this certainly appears to be the case:-Axis of evil--the American political Leftwing and Muslim extremists

To me it is clear that the presence of Islam in the UK is a real and present threat to our social safety, despite all of the platitudes that trip very easily from the mouths of Muslim representatives and so called scholars , we are at risk, the evidence is bountiful, Muslims now feel confident and assertive enough to actually call for the deaths of other Muslims in the UK - with little consequence, it will not be long before such leaflets are in circulation urging Muslims to kill us - once again with little consequence to themselves.

The BBC would probably call it "cultural expression"

Do we want another Beslan in the UK

2010-08-31T16:05:00Z

Thank you DP111, Defender and anonymous( who reminded me of the Beslan anniversary) for your contributions to this post

We live in strange uncertain times over the past years there have been atrocities committed against people simply because those people do not fit into the mindsets of one particular group of people.

Of all the atrocities that have been inflicted upon the non believer - by the Muslim population - (no I do not mean just a few extremists - I mean the Muslim population, the very concept of the Ummah is for Muslims to act as one therefore they are all culpable) , Beslan is the most poignant and in many ways the most terrible,. We must remember Beslan

Muslims will always claim that it was just a few extremists and the slaughter of children is unIslamic - sadly many people in the EU and UK, not forgetting America actually believe this - this belief is dangerous as "defender" points out

defender wrote:
Subject: A German's View of Islam

A German's View of Islam

Thisis by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is said to be Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.

A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates.When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. 'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatic rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide.

It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent inan Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.

Itis the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young tokill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel,and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet

Thank you Defender

Beslan, will it happen again - probably, because we have not learned the lesson that Islam is NOT a religion it is a political force, where will the next Beslan happen - it could well be in the UK, we must ask ourselves - do we want scenes like this in the UK or anywhere else :-

DP111 points out:-

The radicalisation of Muslims in British prisons could produce hundreds of home-grown terrorists as the UK faces threats from lone bombers and assassins sent out to try their luck, according to experts. Warning Over Threat Of Home-Grown Terrorism
Large-scale co-ordinated attacks are being replaced by highly-motivated but poorly trained individuals operating with the expectation that eventually one will succeed, a report in the Royal United Services Institute (Rusi)journal found.

We now have the specter of Gaddafi traveling around holding conversion parties and blackmailing the west Colonel Gaddafi hosts Islam conversion party in Rome for 500 models and demanding £4 billion from the EU to stop it turning Black

In the UK there is an organization called the Quilliam Foundation, they are paid large sums of taxpayers money to "fight" Islamic "extremism" - what do they do - they import another extremist into their "nice little earner" ,Former jihadist leader joins Quilliam this organization has achieved absolutely nothing in the sphere of reducing Islamic activity, what they have done is manage to convince the government and it's associated quangos the " it is just a few extremists" that have hijacked the Islamic faith - now watch this video

The Islamic lobby in the UK is strong and quite easily convinces our ill informed politicians and other government officials that the Muslim does not mean any harm to the UK, this as readers of this blog will know is patently untrue,.

Disaffected members of the Irish national movement are allying themselves with Al Qaiida:-

IRISH terrorists have teamed up with Al Qaeda supporters to help them unleash attacks in Britain. A dissident republican arms quartermaster allowed scores of shotgun cartridges to be delivered to a Muslim extremist terrorist at an address in Dublin

How can any government - faced with overwhelming evidence that Islam is a dangerous political force actually continue to back it and whilst backing Islam the self same government outlaws and vilifies those who protest against it.

There is protest, there is resistance, there is a growing awareness in the UK that all is not right with Islam, this dawning is also happening in Europe and America, in Europe international demonstrations are being held -British anti-Islam 'street army' wants to hold demo in Amsterdam

In America the GZ Mosque has galvanized the nation, there are to be Koran burnings - Koraneque's.

Sadly here in the UK we remain most at risk, known Muslim activists roam the streets, activists, as DP111 pointed out are being created in our prisons, the Mosques ensure that the Muslim is primed and ready for the oncoming jihad.

Will Beslan happen again - probably yes, where - well it could be the UK. And if it does happen in the UK or elsewhere, what will the governments and the multi- culturalist say, they will - in chorus with the Muslims, say It is only a small minority - again

Islam is retarded - Geert Wilders

2010-08-30T20:06:00Z

I do not have much time to put a post up today, I will post tomorrow on the topic I was going to post today, meanwhile I leave you with this video of Geert Wilders and his latest statements concerning Islam.
The Video is here

In an interview broadcast onAustralian television on Sunday, far-right Freedom Party leader GeertWilders has called the Islamic culture “retarded”.

“Our culture, which is based on Christianity, Judaism and humanism isbetter than the retarded Islamic culture,” says Mr Wilders. He alsopointed out that Islam cannot be compared with Christianity. “It is aviolent ideology, like communism and fascism.”

In response, Mr Wilders says the interview was recorded six weeksago, when preliminary talks were being held between left-wing partiesand the conservative VVD, to form a so-called purple-plus coalition.

Now he is participating in the negotiations for the formation of aminority government with the conservative VVD and Christian Democratssupported by his party.

Bradford EDL demo - a very predictable outcome

2010-08-29T14:09:00Z

The media is full of it, yesterdays' EDL demo in Bradford that is, the reporting is all of the same vein - negative and showing as much violence as it can - this was predictable.

I do not claim that there is no violent element in the ranks of the EDL, there are bound to be those elements in any disparate organization , however that being said we must look at the scenario that was constructed by the Police for the arrival of the EDL protesters.

The scene was set by the police and managed by the police.

The EDL marchers were herded into a compound, a compound of limited space, this was done to prevent any clashes between the EDL and the UAF.

Very few images of the UAF are shown in the media coverage - the images are all of EDL protesters - why is this?

Violence was inevitable primarily because the EDL had been kettled, this blocking off of all normal human amenities such as toilets does not make for a peaceful march.

Secondly the close proximity of the marchers of the EDL to each other will have produced responses within the marchers themselves that arise because of the invasion of their personal space. This can lead to violence.

It is a normal response to want to escape close confinement - to re-establish your own personal space, we have all seen the effects when people are crowded together and they start to feel threatened and anxious - they want out the most tragic example of this was the Hillsborough disaster.

You may ask - why does aggression happen to a lesser degree in mass marches - people in mass marches can remove themselves at any time from the mass of other people, secondly as we can control who we have in close proximity to ourselves thus surrendering our personal space for a short time, and then when felt necessary expanding it to a more comfortable zone by moving and creating more individual space.

When people are confined or kettled none of the above apply - the people cannot remove themselves from the invasive crowding - agitation will start - frustrations will mount and violence will happen.

The press photographed the breakout of the EDL from the paddock they were contained in, ALL photos were taken in such a way to show or give the impression that the streets were full of rioters, All photos were close in and tight to the subject thus giving the viewer no sense of scale, the camera does lie - quite often.

The above does not mean that the EDL were totally blameless in this instance, but the cards were stacked against them from the start, they walked into a situation that was engineered to produce a violent aggressive response, they must learn to avoid this, they must also take firm control over those whose primary aim is violence.

Future marches MUST be choreographed, they must be led, clear instructions given to the marchers and the marchers must be made aware of the effects on them of being confined in small spaces against their will.

Above all the EDL must take the protest to a higher level, the intellectual battle has to be engaged, their spokesmen must be prepared for the press.

I personally commend the EDL for their actions against Islam and all it entails, I can understand the frustrations that some of the marchers feel and these frustrations then boiling over into violence - I can understand it, but those emotions MUST be controlled otherwise credibility will disappear. The EDL MUST rid themselves of any kind of reference to the NAZI mindset, fascist salutes are not welcome in the UK, too many people died in order to stop that very thing

Here is one coverage out of many , please note how close in the photographs are and equally as important the selective subject matter:-

I have included some of the comments made on this article

Bottles, stones and smoke bomb hurled during English Defence League demonstration in Bradford

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:40 PM on 28th August 2010

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Five people arrested as police erect barricade

Violence broke out today at a controversial city centre demonstration by far-right group the English Defence League.

EDL supporters threw bottles, cans, stones and three smoke bombs at opponents gathered in Bradford, West Yorkshire.

Nearly 100 supporters of the far-right group then climbed over a temporary eight-foot barricade - aimed at keeping them inside the city's Urban Gardens - to get on to neighbouring waste ground from where they threw missiles at police.

Bradford protest: Police face off with English Defence League supporters as they try to separate them from an opposing group of anti-fascist protesters

Tensions: Police grapple with an EDL supporter in Bradford today

Bloody: One EDL supporter is helped by police after suffering a head wound in the violence

As the skirmishes were breaking out in the gardens, nearly 300 people gathered for an alternative event hosted by Unite Against Fascism/We Are Bradford about half a mile away at the Crown Court Plaza.

West Yorkshire Police said five people were arrested. One person was taken to hospital for treatment to a leg injury.

The EDL supporters met in Halifax before travelling to Bradford on buses under police escort for the static demonstration.

Members had travelled from many towns and cities across England, including Hull, Merseyside, Manchester, Stoke, Southport, Dudley, Wigan and Stockport.

Crossing the line: EDL supporters in hats, hoods and balaclavas hurl missiles at police in Bradford today

More protesters throw missiles at police. At times the scene on a building site near the demonstration looked more like a war zone in Iraq or Bosnia

Police square off against EDL demonstrators today

Only one entrance to the gardens was open and protesters had to pass through metal detectors to gain entry.

The West Yorkshire force received support from neighbouring forces, including Greater Manchester, Northumbria and Humberside.

Police said around 700 people had gathered in and around the venue, as a heavy police presence ensured trouble would be kept to a minimum.

Beyond the heavy police guard, opponents of the EDL gathered to hold their own demonstration and the two groups traded insults with each other.

One EDL supporter, a Muslim called Abdul Salaam, 40, from Glasgow, was escorted into the gardens by police under a chorus of shouting from opponents.

Unravelling a Glasgow Rangers flag, he asked reporters: 'Why are they against the United Kingdom?

EDL supporters have clashed with police officers after a temporary wall was erected

'Islam doesn't teach you hatred, it teaches you peace. These people are hypocrites, they are not true Muslims.'

Another EDL member said: 'It's not about being white and proud, it's about being English and proud.'

When trouble flared, police pushed the EDL members away from the edge of the barricade towards the centre of the gardens, while their opponents were moved into neighbouring streets.

Then the far-right group held a rally as police in riot gear held their line.

Skirmishes broke out between EDL supporters and their own stewards, who stood in front of the police.

Ahead of today's demonstrations, events were held yesterday to urge people in the city to unite.

Bradford Together organised a peace vigil which took place outside the council offices in Jacobs Well.

Bradford Women for Peace also held an event at Ivegate in a show of 'peace, unity and solidarity'.

Supporters of the EDL have been protesting through the day in Bradford after Home Secretary Theresa May banned their original march through the city

Smoke bomb: Police officers were shrouded in smoke from canisters thrown by supporters of the English Defence League during the demonstration

Flash point: EDL supporters gather in Bradford ahead of the demonstration which descended into violence

The calls for peace came amid fears that today's demonstrations could have provoked a violent reaction to rival the 2001 Bradford riots, where 191 people were given sentences totalling more than 510 years.

Initially the EDL intended to march in Bradford with a planned protest by Unite Against Fascism on the same day.

A high-profile campaign was started to stop the EDL march and a 10,000-signature petition opposing it was handed to the Home Office.

Home Secretary Theresa May was asked to authorise the ban by Bradford Council.

It came after West Yorkshire Police's Chief Constable, Sir Norman Bettison, wrote to the council requesting an order to prohibit any public processions over the August Bank Holiday weekend.

A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said tonight: 'At this stage there has been five arrested as part of the operation.

'Police are currently working to ensure the protesters leave the city and we will continue to have a high-profile presence to reassure the people of Bradford.

'We thank people for their patience and support so far and we hope to have protesters removed from the city as soon as possible.'

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Fascism has a new name: "Anti-Fascism"

- ochilview, stirling, 29/8/2010 12:31

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Be carefull what you say about the UAF,you'll be branded as racialy discriminating!
These UAF members are obviously proud to be part of thier group,so proud that they are affraid to show thier faces.I think that just about sums up the integraty of those people,spineless extreamists bent on controling this country.
Civil unrest is on it's way people.

- Garrie, Derby,Derbyshire, 29/8/2010 12:29

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Britain is being steadily Islamised! Our Christian culture and traditions are in great danger! Our goverment should follow the footsteps of their Australian collegues. Quote (Prime Minister John Howard - Australia): 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture.

- Ms K, London, England, 29/8/2010 12:21

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Why were they stopped from entering the city centre?
When muslims gather to abuse our soldiers coming home from war -they are allowed free speech. Even when there are funeral processions of dead heroes - they are allowed to hurl abuse.
We are supposed to be in a country that allows free speech - but it would seem to only apply to foreign ethnic groups.

- wasp, Beenthere. UK., 29/8/2010 12:16

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i am starting to agree with the edl as the politicos just will not listen so it seems the only way is to take to the streets to stop the crazy immigration that the establishment want regardless of what we want,some democracy this is!

- phil, london, 29/8/2010 12:11

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I spent time in the Middle East and I took an interest in the region and the culture.

I can honestly say, that in the last 8 years or so I am witnessing Sharia Law and Sharia principles creeping in by the back-door in this country, being demanded by sections of the Pakistani community and organisations caving in and giving them what they want.

This is true in the Banking sector, personal dispute resolution and more recently Muslim Lawyers here in the UK making demands for further legislation to be implemented to benefit them.

I do not condone violence or racism.

But we should be able to take a hard, objective look about what's going on and discuss it openly and accurately.

The question needs to be asked "Do you really want the UK to adopt the principles of Saudi Arabia?".
"Is this really what we want?".

- David, Bracknell, 29/8/2010 12:11

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No more Jizya in Italy - state funding for Islam is stopped + are you holding a "Koraneque"

2010-08-28T10:05:00Z

The "religion" of Islam will no longer be state funded in Italy, this is good, The timing of this announcement cannot be overlooked, this announcement has been made in the middle of Ramadan, I do feel that there is an irony there somewhere.

Rome, 27 August (AKI) - Mosques in Italy will not receive a share of income tax revenue the Italian government allocates to religious faiths each year. Hindu and Buddhist temples, Greek Orthodox churches and Jehovah's Witnesses will be eligible for the funds, according to a bill approved by the Italian cabinet in May and still must be approved by parliament.

Until now, the government had earmarked 8 percent of income tax revenue for Italy's established churches. The great majority of these funds go to the Catholic Church, although if they wish, individual tax payers may elect to give the money to charities and cultural projects instead.

The head of COREIS, one of Italy's largest Muslim groups, Yahya Pallavicini, said he was bitter that Islam had been denied the revenue from Italian income tax.

The Muslims in Italy will no doubt start the usual claims of Islamophobia etc and probably start threatening the state, this is only to be expected, indeed threats have already started emanating from the Muslim World.

The anniversaries of Beslan and 9/11 are approaching and Muslims are definitely feeling very vulnerable - and so they should, not only are they protesting about the GZ Mosque being objected to they are also threatening violence if the planned Koraneque goes ahead - and it will. - we should all hold a "Koraneque"

Roughly 100 Indonesian Islamists

protested outside the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta on Friday, Agence France-Press reported, with some threatening holy war if the plan to burn Korans on the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks comes to fruition at the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Fla.

"No one will be able to control this reaction," Roni Ruslan, of Hizbut Tahrir, a radical organization than advocates Islamic law, told Agence France-Press. "We urge the U.S. government and Christian leaders to stop the crazy plan from this small sect. It's an insult to Islam and to 1.5 billion Muslims around the world."

The rest of Europe should now follow Italy's lead and stop funding Islam, a further step should be taken and prohibit any funding of Islam in Europe via Islamic countries, Saudi Arabia being the biggest provider of finance to the Islamic diaspora.

Speaking of Saudi Arabia I came across this little gem of an article that shows just how barbaric the Saudi's are

A MAID had 24 hot nails hammered into her hands , legs and forehead after daring to complain about her heavy workload, it emerged yesterday.

Her injuries came to light only after she had fled her Saudi employers after five months and returned home to Sri Lanka.

X-rays showed nails up to two inches long embedded in her hands and legs and over one eye. Her story is one of many being taken up with the Saudi government by Sri Lanka’s external affairs ministry.

Nearly two million Sri Lankans worked overseas last year, with an estimated 1.4 million working as maids and domestic helpers to rich Middle Eastern families. Many have complained of physical abuse or harassment. The woman in the latest scandal, LT Ariyawathi, a 49-year-old mother-of-three, got home days ago after her terrifying ordeal.

“The landlord and the wife of the landlord hammered 24 burning nails into her when she complained of the heavy workload,” revealed Kalyana Priya Ramanayake, of Sri Lanka’s Foreign Employment Bureau.

This is how they treat people who are NOT Muslim in Saudi, even if the maid was a Muslim she was not an Arabic Muslim and thus of much lesser status.

How dare she claim to be a victim of 7/7

2010-08-26T17:32:00Z

I do not know what to say about this except I am somewhat sickened by the by the claims of this woman, she is no victim, she is after the legal aid.

Her husband was and will remain a murderer, incidentally, if this woman is the widow of the 7/7 murderer - Why is she addressed as MISS!!!

I'm a victim too says the widow of 7/7 bomber, in legal aid claim that could delay inquest

By Rebecca Camber

Legal bid: Hasina Patel, whose husband was plot mastermind Mohammed Sidique Khan, is challenging the refusal to provide her with legal aid

The widow of a July 7 suicide bomber yesterday launched a High Court bid to be represented at the victims’ inquest - saying she had also suffered the loss of a loved one in the atrocity.

Hasina Patel, whose husband was terrorist mastermind Mohammad Sidique Khan, is seeking legal aid to challenge the coroner’s decision to exclude Khan’s death from the hearing for the 52 victims of the 2005 London bombings.

If the mother of one’s application is granted, October’s long-awaited inquest could be delayed by months of legal wrangling, to the distress of those who have waited more than five years for it to take place.

Lawyers for Miss Patel claim there should be ‘no material distinction’ between her and the families of those killed, because she ‘equally suffered the loss of a relative’.

But the move will anger bereaved families, who do not want the deaths of the terrorists included in the same inquest as the 52 innocents whose lives they took.

Miss Patel hopes to overturn the decision made by Lady Justice Hallett in May to hold a separate hearing into the deaths of the four bombers - Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, Shehzad Tanweer, 22, Hasib Hussain, 18, and Jermaine Lindsay, 19.

The Government has already agreed to give legal aid to the families of the 52 victims. But Miss Patel’s request for equal funding was refused in May this year.

Aftermath: The bus blown up by Hasib Hussain in Tavistock Square, where 13 people were killed

Afterwards, her solicitor Imran Khan said: ‘There appears to be no material distinction between the victims’ families and the position of my clients as family members who, through no fault of their own, have equally suffered the loss of a relative.’

Yesterday Ian Wise QC, representing Miss Patel, told the High Court that she wanted legal aid ‘so that she can be represented to make representations on the resumption of the inquest into the death of her husband and whether it should be joined to the existing inquest’.

He referred to Miss Patel as the wife of the ‘alleged ringleader’, saying she could help the inquest by providing information. But Lord Justice Thomas demanded to know what information Miss Patel had that she had not already told police, warning that any application to include the bombers in the inquest would cause a delay.

Clockwise from above left: Suicide bombers Mohammed Sidique Khan, Shehzad Tanweer, Hasib Hussain and Jermaine Lindsay murdered 52 people

Yesterday Ashley Underwood QC, representing the Lord Chancellor, said Miss Patel wanted legal aid only to defend her reputation.

Clifford Tibber of Oury Clark Solicitors, which represents several victims’ families, said: ‘They have waited for more than five years for this and for them to wait any longer would be devastating for them.’

Miss Patel, who was born in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, married Khan in 2002 after they met at Dewsbury College, where both were studying to work in the education sector.

She has described her husband as a ‘good person’ who was brainwashed by Islamic militants.

Immigration - proprioception and personal space

2010-08-26T16:29:00Z

Proprioception, a rather strange word, what does it mean, well basically it means that you know where your physical body ends, and you know when you are moving (walking/running)

Personal space, this is the amount of space that you physically occupy plus a bit more, it is usually the "bit more" that is described as personal space

So what, why all of this, let me elucidate- we all know how big we are , we all know that we need personal space, personal space is becoming a highly sought after thing as we are now told that the UK is the most densely populated piece of land in the EU

With high density population the personal space of the individual must reduce, this can only reduce so much, when personal space is invaded the individual can feel threatened and highly uncomfortable, anyone who has experienced "rush hour" on the Tube will know exactly what I am talking about.

The tube experience shows that the individual can control personal space, they can extend it or reduce it reduction is not usually sustainable for long periods (emergencies excepted)

When personal space is invaded and the person feels threatened then fight or flight responses kick in, if flight is not possible then it will be fight.

As stated we are now in the most densely populated piece of land in the EU, it is inevitable that our space will become less and less, this will lead to high social tension which will lead to aggression and then overt violence.

This situation is a direct result of the disastrous immigration policy of NuLabour,, millions have flooded in and we as you know only have limited space.

Many will say "but there are plenty of open spaces in the UK - that could be true but those spaces are needed to grow the food that we all need.

I have often said that a certain amount of land can only sustain so many people, to import more people thus upsetting the balance is fatal.

The UK is full, full to bursting yet people are still allowed to flood in, some are leaving, this is probably the "flight" part of the aforementioned fight or flight response.

As the density of the population increases demand to build upon farmland will also increase - food output will be reduced, more and more imported or synthesized foods will be used, and we will end up in a situation where we cannot sustain our own population without being dependent upon foreign imports - such a situation would lead to the UK being in a highly vulnerable and extremely volatile predicament.

The immigration has to stop, people have to be sent back to where they came from, to carry on having more and more coming in is national suicide.

The immigration policies espoused by various government bodies and think tanks are not taking account of the very serious impact overpopulation has for a country.

The confirmation of England's position at the head of the European overcrowding league table was given by the highly authoritative House of Commons library, which examined figures from the Office for National Statistics and the EU's Eurostat.

Officials said that by next year England will have 402.1 people for every square kilometre, overtaking the figure of 398.5 in Holland and 355.2 in Belgium.

The density of the population in England by 2011 will be more than four times that of France, which has 99.4 for each square kilometre.

According to the Commons Library estimates, it will reach double the density of Germany in 20 years' time, when there will be nearly 460 people for every square kilometre in England against 224 in Germany.

Ministers have promised to bring in a cap on immigration next year to bring numbers of arrivals down to 1990s levels and ease population pressures.

However some members of the Coalition, notably Business Secretary Vince Cable, are hostile to any move to reduce immigration and sympathetic to calls from industry to allow more foreign workers into the country.

Other figures released today showed births to mothers born outside the UK made up nearly a quarter of all live births in the UK last year - a figure which has doubled since the late 1990s.

In Newham, east London, this rose to more than three-quarters (75.7 per cent) - the highest percentage of births to mothers born outside the UK.

The three most common countries of birth of non-UK born mothers were Pakistan, Poland and India, as has been the case since 2007, the figures showed.

Governments always speak of the impact upon services and housing etc, they NEVER speak of the impact this ruinous policy and deliberate flooding of our country has on the individual and society at large.

Calls for more to be allowed in from the so called leaders of commerce must be stopped, the politicians must be made aware of the deadly effects of this obscene importation of people into the UK.

The Birth rate of the immigrants is high, this will add to an already bad situation, if this is not addressed then the population of the UK will probably grow exponentially

If strong action is not taken and the flow of people into the UK reversed then the scenario I have outlined above will surely happen

Mosques and civil unrest

2010-08-25T17:19:00Z

Mosques are in the media _BIG TIME, well in America they are. We all know about the proposed Mosque adjacent to Ground Zero and we all know the fervor it has created - and rightly so, Mosques are being challenged everywhere they are being proposed both here and in the USA.

In America a TV ad is being aired, this would NEVER be allowed in the UK - here's the Ad:-(link)

Mosques are being challened more and more, once again in America Proposed mosque in Mayfield, Kentucky rejected, crowd cheers and in the UK Mosque will never be built on old church site after final appeal is denied

The Mega Mosque in Dudley was stopped thanks to the EDL who went their to support local opposition to the project which was given the go ahead by Dudley council despite that large local opposition.

Speaking of the EDL they are to continue with their demonstration in Bradford this weekend, it will be a static demo because the march has been banned by the Home Office, I trust we will see similar bans imposed when Muslims march through our towns and Cities demanding that we be put to death etc.

The benign influence of Islam is the line we are all fed and expected to accept despite the fact that there are growing numbers of Fundamentalists in London politics: new links emerge.

Surely it must now be patently clear to all and sundry that Islam in all it's forms is not wanted in the UK, Europe or America, in America overt violence is starting to manifest Man Is Held in Anti-Muslim Stabbing of Cabdriver.

This is seen as something horrific, and it is, but it is far less horrific than the murder of 3000 people at GZ. That does not excuse the crime, but when people see no resolution to their complaints by their elected representatives - they will seek their own form of redress this is one such instance.

The situation is going to get worse and will continue to do so until proactive measures are taken by governments to address the very real threat posed by Islam - to the western World are addressed.

ALL the signs of civil unrest are there for all to see, this unrest will become disobedience, this will develop into open dissent and then violence - this is inevitable unless the so called governments acknowledge the situation and act

Manchester shopkeeper fends off 'Asian' robbers by throwing beer cans at them - Will he be charged with hate crime?

2010-08-22T15:55:00Z

From TheOPINIONATOR:

Throwing beer cans at muslims? Surprised the police initial reaction is so mild - especially in view of their usual pandering and constant support of muslims leveling ludicrous accusations of supposed hate crimes and discrimination leveled against them - often regarding alcohol - such as:

Devout muslim sues Tesco for making him carry alcohol

Muslim trucker sues Tennessee firm over alcohol load

Muslim sues company claiming "hurt feelings" due to wine gift

Muslim bank employee sues - says he was fired for being Muslim and told " if someone doesn't drink (alcohol) he should not be in banking"

Muslim cab driver's refuse to transport customers with alcohol

Taxi driver refuses to take home woman carrying bottle of alcohol

Thus the shopkeeper shouldn't be too surprised when the police "come to their senses" and charge him with a crime against the gun-toting muslim thieves who were victimised by the tossed beer cans.

Expect Compensation tribunal will be forthcoming.

Article in full:

Radcliffe shopkeeper fends off robbers with beer cans

A shopkeeper from Greater Manchester fought off armed raiders - by hurling cans of beer at them.

Three masked men, armed with a gun, entered an off-licence in Lord Street, Radcliffe, at 1230 BST on Thursday.

They threatened the 53-year-old shopkeeper with the gun but he threw the cans at them, a Greater Manchester Police spokesman said.

The men - described as Asian, between 5ft 6in (1.7m) and 5ft 10in (1.8m) and wearing dark clothing - fled.

Det Con Peter Graham, of Greater Manchester Police, said: "What this man did was courageous - in sharp contrast to the cowardly actions of the robbers themselves.

"With no thought to his own safety he fought them off and they fled with their tails between their legs."

He appealed to anyone with information to contact police.

The New McArthyism

2010-08-21T16:17:00Z

Here in the UK we are in the midst of the new McCarthyism period, a period where anyone who does not agree with the state or official line/version of events is open to be castigated by officials - petty or grand, of the state machinery and their many Quangos, this allows anyone - any member of the public to do the same, they too can castigate, insult, accuse and berate any organization or individual purely because they do not agree what they say or do - and suffer little or no consequence to their actions, yet their actions ruin peoples lives

McCarthyism did exactly the same thing, the focus of McCarthyism was communists:-

Known as McCarthyism, the paranoid hunt for infiltrators was notoriously difficult on writers and entertainers, many of whom were labeled communist sympathizers and were unable to continue working. Some had their passports taken away, while others were jailed for refusing to give the names of other communists. The trials, which were well publicized, could often destroy a career with a single unsubstantiated accusation. Among those well-known artists accused of communist sympathies or called before the committee were Dashiell Hammett, Waldo Salt, Lillian Hellman, Lena Horne, Paul Robeson, Elia Kazan, Arthur Miller, Aaron Copland, Leonard Bernstein, Charlie Chaplin and Group Theatre members Clifford Odets, Elia Kazan, and Stella Adler.In all, three hundred and twenty artists were blacklisted, and for many of them this meant the end of exceptional and promising careers.

During this time there were few in the press willing to stand up against McCarthy and the anti-Communist machine. Among those few were comedian Mort Sahl, and journalist Edward R. Murrow,whose strong criticisms of McCarthy are often cited as playing an important role in his eventual removal from power. By 1954, the fervor had died down and many actors and writers were able to return to work.Though relatively short, these proceedings remain one of the most shameful moments in modern U.S. history.

Today's McCarthyism does not have communists as it's focus, today's focus is those people who disagree with multicultural concepts being imposed upon their society and the way they live their lives, those people who see a rampant Islam growing ever stronger in the UK and the declared aims of Islam in the UK becoming more and more of a reality.

During the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany people were encouraged to "name the Jew", anyone - even children, could accuse somebody of being Jewish, that person was quickly removed and probably died in a concentration camp - once accused there was no way back.

We now with the new McCarthyism have a very similar situation in the UK, if somebody calls another person racist - the accused is presumed to be racist - it is accepted by all others, the accused cannot prove his or her innocence, this is especially true in the employment area.

People are accused of being Islamophobic if they do not agree with the imposition of Muslims and their cultural beliefs upon them or their society. Once again it is a guilty until proven innocent scenario - and you cannot prove your innocence.

Just as in the time of McCarthyism, to be labeled a communist was a certain track to your life being turned upside down and your professional life ruined - so it is in the UK if you are labeled racist, Islamophobic, supremist , extremist, English, nationalist and many other such descriptions. Your job, your security, your home could easily disappear, you could also be imprisoned.

Make no mistake this situation in the UK is government led, if you need proof - here it is.

The EDL are to demonstrate in Blackburn on the 28th August this year - the march has been banned, why has it been banned, this is because the powers that be felt that such a march may trigger the violence that occurred in Bradford in 2001

From the Guardian

The home secretary, Theresa May, today authorised a ban on a planned march by far-right group the English Defence League (EDL), due to take place in Bradford later this month.

The blanket ban prevents any marches in the city over the August bank holiday weekend, when the EDL had said it was planning to stage a demonstration members described as "the big one".

The Home Office said: "Having carefully balanced rights to protest against the need to ensure local communities and property are protected, the home secretary gave her consent to a Bradford council order banning any marches in thecity over the bank holiday weekend.

"West Yorkshire police are committed to using their powers to ensure communities and property are protected, and we encourage all local people to work with the police to ensure community cohesion is not undermined by public disorder."

I for one am certain that neither the Guardian or any member of the government, either central or local, or any member of the MSM know all of the people that make up the EDL, yet it those very people that will gladly and publicly proclaim the EDL to be a fascist organization.

Any group who demonstrates against the prevailing state mindset will be labeled this way.

The UAF are a group that supports the new McCarthyism, it is well known and documented that they are the prime instigators of violence towards the EDL or any other protesting group that the UAF deem to be "fascist or racist", surprisingly enough this group, the UAF never seem to be investigated by the Media, I wonder why that is? whereas groups or individuals such as the EDL are swooped upon by the buzzards of the press almost instantly.

We do live in a McCarthyist state, there is hope however, McCarthy and his concepts were soon rubbished and he himself became a victim of his own completely prejudiced hatred and blindness to the reality of the situation.

We in the UK have a slightly harder job on our hands, here it is not just one person, it is the system that is riddled with "McCarthyism" and just as happened in America all those years ago - the press, the media did not stand up to the propagators of the witch hunt that epitomized McCarthyism

Muslims re write the Bible - and Disney gets ripped off again

2010-08-20T09:48:00Z

Islam is the most contentious of cults, there is nothing the followers of this stone age diktat will not do to harass and attack those who do not share their views.

Disney, the Mecca of the cartoon world (cartoons being something Muslims do not like at all) has now joined the " offenders of Islam club",

To gain membership of this rather dubious "club" the organization - or individual has to do something that Islam and it's followers do not like, and in today's World that is not difficult.

From the L A Times:-

A Muslim woman who works as a hostess at a Disney-owned restaurant fileda discrimination complaint against the entertainment giant Wednesday,saying they have repeatedly sent her home without pay for refusing toremove her headscarf at work.

Imane Boudlal said she has worked as a hostess at Storyteller's Café inDisney's Grand Californian Hotel & Spa for two years and beganwearing her hijab Sunday but was told she would have to remove it ortake a job working out of public view.

Disney has told a hijab wearing Muslim that she cannot wear a hijab whilst on public view, they have offered her alternative work "behind the scenes" and she has refused this.

Needless to say CAIR got in on the act, the fact that this lady had NOT bothered to wear a hijab for all of her two year employment with Disney tell it's own story, this is the first time she has worn it to work and she says she was respecting Ramadan

This is a sting, she is after the cash, she clearly had no problems with not wearing a hijab for the past two years Ramadan or not - why now.?

On a more serious note - the Muslims have decided to write a "forged Bible" they are calling all the biblical scriptures lies

Islamic publishing house releases "forged Bible

Cairo - An Islamic publishing house in Egypt has published what is says is a 'forged' version of the Christian Bible , angering the local Coptic Church, independent daily al-Masry al-Youm reported Thursday.

The owner of the Islamic Enlightenment Publishing House, AbuislamAbdullah, wrote in the introduction that the reason behind the book'spublication was to prove that there are several versions of the bible and that Christians had forged theirs.

What would be the response from Muslims if a publishing house in the UK or USA published their version of the Koran- because the one used by Muslims today was a pack of lies?

I think we all know the answer to that one - they would create mayhem.

This is a direct attack upon Christianity, it does not matter if you believe or not - that is not the point, Muslims are claiming the supremacy of their religion over another and as such are demonstrating that they have the right, to re-write, other people beliefs

What is next - The Torah, the Hindu scrolls, the Tibetan book of the dead, the list goes on.

To the Christian, the Muslims have committed the act of ultimate blasphemy, what could be more humiliating to the follower of ANY faith than to have your sacred texts re written by a barbarian cult.

What should the response be from the Christian world, in the past such an act would have launched a crusade - sadly in today's World this will not happen, we will have to wait and see if the Church does anything about this.

One person is however making a stand:-

Spanish bishop emphasizes: No Islamic worship at cathedral, a former mosque

In the face of a Muslim campaign, Bishop Demetrio Fernández Gonzálezof the southern Spanish city of Córdoba, once the seat of Muslim powerin Spain, is remaining firm in his resolve not to permit Islamic worshipat the city’s cathedral. The cathedral was formerly a mosque, which inturn had been built on the site of a Catholic church.

“Would they be happy to do the same in any of their mosques?” he asked.“Absolutely not. Because I understand their religious feeling and theyhave to understand ours as well.”

Poll finds 20% in US believe Obama is Muslim

2010-08-19T10:28:00Z

Before you read any further this information comes via the "Middle East Online" , The BBC in the UK has not mentioned it at all - as yet but the BBC US and Canada are running the story

The article denounces the claim that he is a Muslim but more and more people appear to be coming to that conclusion, is he a Manchurian candidate.

The reporting of this poll varies the BBC (US and Canada) say:-

A growing number of Americans incorrectly believe President Barack Obama is a Muslim, research suggests.

Some 18% said the president was a Muslim, up from 11% in March 2009, according to the Pew Research survey of 3,003 Americans.

Among Republicans, that number was 34%. Just a third of those quizzed correctly identified Mr Obama as Christian.

Polling was done before 13 August when Mr Obama defended Muslims' right to build an Islamic centre by Ground Zero.

Forty-three per cent of those questioned said they did not know what Mr Obama's religion was.

Whereas The Financial Post says:-

WASHINGTON — Nearly two years after Barack Obama’s election as U.S. president, a growing number of Americans misidentify his faith as Muslim, according to a new poll released Thursday.

Despite Mr. Obama’s attendance in church and his repeated public statements about his Christian faith, nearly one in five respondents on the survey said they believed he is a practitioner of Islam, while only 34% of Americans correctly identified him as a Christian, down sharply from a year earlier.

The poll was conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

Meanwhile, the percentage of people who say they are unsure what religion Obama practices has risen to 43%, from 34% a year ago.

The poll found one third of conservative Republicans believe Mr. Obama is a Muslim, a figure that has nearly doubled. But the president’s faith was incorrectly identified by rising numbers of Democrats and independents too.

Some 18% of independent voters thought Obama was Muslim, up eight percentage points, and fewer than half the president’s Democratic supporter believe him to be a Christian.

Obama has to either declare that he is a Muslim and resign from Office or openly state to the people of America that he is not a Muslim and take positive steps to prove it, one such step would be to declare Islam is a political organization and would not be recognized as a Faith in the USA

Unless he does something of that magnitude more and more will join the "Obama is a Muslim" school of thought. For President Obama to make such a statement,I will not hold my breath.

Is he a Muslim, I believe so, his affinities with the "Religion" are too strong and too frequent, he is too quick to appease and there is this , this has to be the biggest Freudian slip of the decade, Freudian slips usually reflect what the person is actually believes or wants :-

A Freudian slip , or technically parapraxis, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of some unconscious ("dynamically repressed") wish, conflict, or train of thought. The concept is thus part of classical psychoanalysis.

Continual appeasement is seen as a weakness - we pursue this at our peril

2010-08-18T13:23:00Z

Thank you DP111

I have often said that the only way to stop Islam in the west is to inflict upon its heartland a devastating blow, until the west executes such a move the Mohammedan will see us as weak and incapable of defending ourselves.

Listen to this excellent video

The British population today is more concerned about "Big Brother" ( how ironic)

2010-08-17T16:14:00Z

UKIP are now leaderless, what now for the political party that claimed to speak for England? , from what I can see - not a lot.

UKIP were not strident enough, they are still not strident enough, sadly, I fear they never will be, but is this all the fault of UKIP, no I do not think so, much of the problem surrounding UKIP's lack of success is the relentless conditioning and social engineering that has taken place in the UK over the past 20 - 30 years.

Three decades ago the state launched its interventions into our personal lives, not too much at first - hardly noticeable actually, the nineties saw a huge acceleration of political manipulation of the public.

The Nanny state had already taken root and people were told it was ok not to strive and achieve, any problems they had would be taken care of by the state, a dependency upon the state grew rapidly,.

The education system became a farce ( and still is ) it also became highly political and highly prejudicial against the indigenous people of this country, the values that you and I were brought up with were erased from any kind of learning programme.

This conditioning was reinforced in colleges and Universities, to fail was banned - all had to succeed and the state engineered ways of making that happen - you could carry on taking an exam until you eventually passed it, mickey mouse degrees proliferated.

Positive discrimination primarily against the the male of the species - but only the white male took hold, the role of the male was systematically reduced and we were all told "we had to get in touch with our " feminine" side".

To be female single and pregnant meant that you ticked all the boxes - you were housed, financed and supported by the state.

The young men who grew up and were exposed to this social castration process did not see anything wrong, they had known no different, they accepted - and still do - the subservient role they are now in, they are second to all of the males of ethnic minority status, they are second to the female, if the female happens to be Black well she is on the top of the heap - she can do no wrong.

Before a population can change it has to realize what it has lost - the British population do not see any loss, the principles of social engineering espoused in Orwell's 1984 have been applied and they worked.

The British population today is more concerned about "Big Brother" ( how ironic) or who Jordan is having sex with and where, what footballer is purchasing prostitutes services - and the WAG's who are not too far removed from the aforesaid are getting paid to go public with their "anguish"

The above is fed the the public, it has become a narcotic, whilst the public devour this crap the government goes about it's business telling us how good they are for us.

What chance has any new political party got when it has to overcome the years of conditioning that the other parties have implemented and supported - I would say very little.

The UK does NOT have a free press, nor does it have any real freedom of information, the Media such as the BBC and other TV broadcasters are totally controlled by the government of the day.

Some dissention is allowed in the press, this is tokenism, if those publications step over the government line they will be severely sanctioned.

Where does all this leave the people like you and I who have known better days, who still have the insight and intelligence to see that things are really wrong.

The present day society sees nothing wrong with hoards of Muslims entering the UK and being promoted above the native culture of these lands, it sees nothing wrong in children being brainwashed and their culture denied them, it sees nothing wrong in the gross erosion of our liberties, it sees nothing wrong in the positive affirmation programmes that disadvantage the indigenous population, they see nothing wrong in the submission of this country to a foreign power - the EU.

Who will stand for us - those who see and feel this appalling state of affairs that our country has gladly dived headlong into - in short - no one.

The BNP try and try hard, they are squashed by the machine as soon as they put their heads above water, this is paraded as a victory for common sense by the political parties - another victory over the fascist right wing - sadly the people of this country cannot recognize the real fascists

Where is the aid from Muslim countries? - and what is the point of Ban Ki Moon?

2010-08-16T12:21:00Z

The Islamic world is always going on about the unity of the Ummah and how pain or disaster in one part of the Ummah is felt by ALL of the Ummah, this is clearly a complete myth.

We in the West are deluged - yet again with images of disaster from the floods in Pakistan, we are served our daily ration of images of young children lying prostrate with their faces covered with flies, we get serious faced BBC correspondents describing gloom and expectant disaster of biblical proportions if we in the West do not do anything.

Amidst all this wailing and bemoaning Ban Ki Moon has urged people to give more to Pakistan, by this he means Britain and America plus the EU.

Just what is the point of Ban Ki Moon?

Where is the aid from the Islamic Ummah, well in short - there isn't any, hardly anything has been sent from the oil rich Saudi's, Iran or any other Muslim state, this is not surprising, it is also not surprising to learn that Saudi and other Muslim states will send aid to Gaza ( who really do not need it) to fight the Israeli's.

The Islamic Development Bank (IDB) has offered a soft loan of $10million for flood relief but the response for the flood victims from most of the Muslim countries has so far been lack lustre. The sources said that Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran and Indonesia had hinted at providing relief goods, but economic affairs division (EAD) was yet to receive any confirmation. Saudi Arabia is reported to have sent some relief goods through non-government channels.

Then there is this :-

But the EU [European Union] has just added their contribution of 39Million dollars US worth in Euros to Pakistan for Flood Relief for thepoor there.

Of course, all this money, including the 6 million Pounds Sterling [almost 12 million dollars US] given by UK is from Charity.

Not to mention, the Muslims will still spit in the faces of all of us for our having been humane.

USA has sent 10 million dollars US worth of aid, UNO added another 10million dollars US worth and China added another one and a half million dollars US worth; and, guess what?

The Emir of UAE is asking the expatriate Pakistanis there to donate,while he has sent 54 trucks of aid to Gaza for the Palestinians! Refer the links from the guy below.

“They [Pakistani Army and Aid workers] throw food at us as if we are animals and not humans,” Ilyas Khan, one angry man told AFP, complaining there was no proper system of distribution.

Flood victims have condemned authorities over a sluggish relief,shouting “give us aid sent by foreign countries” and “death to the corrupt government.”

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world…

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/ar…

Most of thecommitments for relief assistance have come from the World Bank, UnitedNations agencies, the United States, and European countries.

!600 people are said to have lost their lives in this recent natural occurrence in Pakistan, 2792 lost their lives on 9/11 which was a disaster of man made proportions.

Let us get this disaster in perspective, it is sad when people die needlessly however this "disaster has resulted in 1600 deaths - there could be more to come , who knows but at the moment fewer people have lost their lives than in 9/11

The Muslim world hates and derides the West and it's values yet it is only too eager the receive food and money from us, it will gladly attack us and say it is our fault, of course when we do not help the Muslim Ummah we are being hateful ,Islamophobic and guilty of new crusades against the Muslim

Aid money, where will it go, will it go to those who need it - maybe, but if Haiti is anything to go by much of this aid will disappear into various slush funds run by the so called government, and some very dubious "relief agencies" who are connected to multifarious Islamic organizations who wish to attack people in the western World.

Just where is the aid from Islamic countries, - there is not any, they are quite happy to see the West pay it's jizya whilst they sit back and do nothing.

Pakistan is not the responsibility of the western World, piling money and aid into it will not make it a friend of the West, The Ummah has responsibility towards Pakistan

Obama backs building of a Mosque next to America's most sacred soil

2010-08-14T08:10:00Z

The leader of any country must have an affinity with the people of that country, if this affinity does not exist then the leader will not be effective or responsive to the needs of the nation or aspirations of it's people, the culture of the nation will not be understood, this is what is happening in America, President Obama is devoid of all the above - he does not connect with the American people.

The latest demonstration of this inability to connect and identify with the American people actually comes as no real shock.

President Obama has come out in support of the 9/11 Mosque, this I feel was inevitable, his overtures to the Muslim World and various Muslim appointments in his staff and the strong likelihood that he himself is actually a Muslim, plus his declarations that America is NOT a Christian country, were strong indicators that he would support the Mosque at Ground Zero.

The vast majority of Americans and indeed Europeans find this development repulsive, America is alive with this topic, Geert Wilders is to go to America to join the protests against this building.

Obama has clearly not recognized this, how he could have missed the screams of protest is beyond me, this shows his inability to connect.

How can he connect - he is not of America, he was born - maybe in Kenya or the Phillipines, he has an "Hawiian"???? birth certificate???, his education had strong Islamic underpinning - his cultural roots are by no means American, he will not "feel" as Americans do about their country, simply because he is not "of" that country - he is not a son of America, he cannot "feel America" jn the same way that the people "OF" America do, therefore he does not see anything wrong in flying in the face of huge public protest about building a Mosque adjacent to Americas most sacred piece of land - Ground zero

Where and when did President Obama make this statement :

He made the statement in the White House during a dinner celebrating Ramadan - please draw your own conclusions

From the Telegraph

At a dinner celebrating the holy month of Ramadan, he declared "as a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country".

In remarks prepared for the annual White House sunset meal breaking the fast, he said: "I understand the emotions that this issue engenders. Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground."

"Indeed hallowed ground" but Obama still went ahead and backed the Mosque , and said ,in support of his decision

But, he continued, "this is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are."

I am reasonably certain that the American constitution says that "freedom of religion is guaranteed provided that it is, or does not become a threat to the state". I am no expert on the American Constitution and I stand open to correction but I am fairly certain that words to the aforementioned effect are in there.

The Muslim World will celebrate 9/11 along with the Battle of Badr

2010-08-13T17:00:00Z

9/11 approaches, this is a special day, this year it is even more special because Eid al Fatr - the end of Ramadan is also on that day, this will no doubt give the Muslims around the World more reason to celebrate.

Since 9/11 the Muslim world has been doing it's utmost to "persuade" the rest of us that Islam is the "Religion of Peace" whereas in reality we all know that it is the Religion of War - yet still they persist in flogging the same old dead horse.

NEW YORK -- The lunar calendar that Muslims

Eid al-Fitr, a joyous holiday marking theend of the holy month of Ramadan, this year falls around Sept. 11.Muslim leaders fear that their gatherings for prayer and festivities could be misinterpreted by those unfamiliar with Islam as a celebration of the 2001 terrorist strikes.

The Muslim Public Affairs Council, an advocacy group based in Los Angeles, is contacting law enforcement and the Justice Department civil rights division to alert them to the overlap.

I find the above statement so completely patronizing, I doubt if there is anyone in America who does not know that it was a group of Muslims who flew the planes into the twin towers, the American people do know about Islam and it's "message of peace", this message was very publicly delivered via two 747 Jet aircraft, 3000 people received the message "first hand" - it was the last message they ever received.

Speaking of messages - President Obama has delivered his Ramadan message - here is a taster:-

For all of us must remember that the world we want to build - and thechanges that we want to make - must begin in our own hearts, and our owncommunities. These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold incommon, and Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, andthe dignity of all human beings. Ramadan is a celebration of a faithknown for great diversity and racial equality.

And here in the United States, Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America and that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country. And today, I want to extend my best wishes to the 1.5billion Muslims around the world - and your families and friends as you welcome the beginning of Ramadan. I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month. May God's peace be upon you.

Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings. Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality.

Can you believe that! - just what script is this man reading from, the following is a very good example of Islamic tolerance, justice and dignity:- Iran stoning woman tortured to confess on TV: lawyer need any more - here's another:- Muslim Protestors Surround Christian Worshipers in Indonesia and there is this Muslim Lebanese channels halt Jesus TV series

The word tolerance does not exist in Islam, it is only used by Islam when they want us to tolerate their so called faith.

Eid is the celebration of the battle of Badr

The Battle of Badr (Arabic: غزوة بدر‎), fought March 17, 624 AD (17 Ramadan 2 AH in the Islamic calendar) Hejaz region of western Arabia (present-day Saudi Arabia), was a key battle in the early days of Islam and a turning point in Muhammad's struggle with his opponents among the Quraish^[1] in Mecca. The battle has been passed down in Islamic history as a decisive victory attributable to divine intervention, or by secular sources to the genius of Muhammad. It is one of the few battles specifically mentioned in the Quran. Most contemporary knowledge of the battle at Badr comes from traditional Islamic accounts, both hadiths and biographies of Muhammad, written decades after the battle.

Eid celebrates the death of the enemies of Islam, the Muslim World will celebrate 9/11 along with the Battle of Badr

Obama's " Iftar " at the White House

2010-08-12T16:10:00Z

America's President is to celebrate Ramadan:-

“I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.” - President Obama

This is yet another indication of Obama's affiliation to Islam, has any other US President ever done such a thing? as it happens there is one, and that was G.W Bush

The dinner follows in the tradition of former President George W. Bush , who held eight Ramadan dinners in office to stress that America’s war with violent extremists was not a war with Islam. Despite that outreach, Mr. Bush became a polarizing figure to many Muslims, in large part because of the Iraq war and his staunch support for Israel.

There is a difference however between the motives of G.W and Obama, Obama is overtly pro Islamic and I personally suspect that his Ramadan celebrations are for the promotion of Islam in the USA. Whereas G.W did not promote or raise the profile of Islam in the USA, he was just saying that the actions taken by the USA were not aimed at Islam, but those followers of Islam who attacked the USA, and that is a completely different standpoint

President Obama has openly declared that America is not a Christian country - no other President has ever done that

President Obama stated at a press conference in Turkey last week that we Americans “do not consider ourselves a Christian nation, or a Muslim nation, but rather, a nation of citizens who are, uh, bound by a set of values.”.

In the USA there is a rising tide of anti Islam awareness, people all across America are waking up to the Islamic presence in their country, this awareness has largely been triggered bu the Cordoba institutes plan to build a mega Mosque adjacent to the site of the 9/11 atrocity.

Despite a huge public outcry the planners of this Mosque have no intention of re locating , this is pure Islamic dogmatism, they want the Mosque near 9/11, nothing less will do, they want to show that they can put a Mosque anywhere in the USA irrespective of what the American people think or feel.

Why has President Obama not stepped in and said NO, there will not be a Mosque on that site, maybe we could find the answer to that question at the Iftar celebration he is going to have at the White House.

America watch out

Well would you build a soluble house on a flood plain?

2010-08-11T19:38:00Z

It's no use I just have to say something about the floods in Pakistan, the UN have today pledged something like £400 million to Pakistan, this plus all the other aid that is pouring into Pakistan from the western World, this adds up to a tidy little sum.

I eagerly await the announcement that it is global warming that has caused this flooding, indeed I think this propaganda has already started.

In reality nothing could be further from the truth.

The Indus river is a very old river:-

Around five thousand years ago, an important civilization developed on the Indus River floodplain. From about 2600 B.C. to 1700 B.C. a vast number of settlements were built on the banks of the Indus River and surrounding areas. These settlements cover a remarkable region, almost 1.25 million kilometres of land which is today part of Afghanistan, Pakistan and north-western India.

As you can see we are talking about a long time, about 5000 years.

Monsoons have been around a very long time as well, the Indus has been flooding for the past 5000 years so what has happened in Pakistan is completely natural.

You would have thought that after 5000 years the people there would have learned not to build houses on a flood plain!!

The houses they build are made of baked mud bricks, what happens when hard mud gets wet - it turns back into mud, why on Earth would you use such a material knowing it will disintegrate if it gets wet - and it is going to get wet on a flood plain.

This is complete stupidity.

The Everglades in Florida is a very wet place - there is a lot of water there, the levels rise and fall, the Indians who live there, have for many thousands of years built their lodges on stilts - thus managing the changes in water levels plus they use materials that do not dissolve when wet.

Why did this concept not arise in Pakistan?

Millions of tonnes aid is pouring into Pakistan, much of this is food - it's Ramadan, many will not eat the food during daylight hours - this is another remarkably stupid position to take considering the circumstances, they are already starving so they decide to starve some more - you could not make this up

This natural occurrence happens every year, they know when the monsoons are coming they know the Indus will flood and the plains will be awash with water - why the hell don't they move, they can return when the water has subsided.

Where would they go I hear you say, Pakistan is a big place, it has high ground and low ground, the Indus is in a valley, all the people have to do is move up the hillsides.

Many may think I am being simplistic - maybe - yet it occurs to me that these people can do a lot to help themselves but just don't bother.

Meanwhile the west will continue to bale them out and the rogue state of Pakistan will continue to thank us by supporting the Taliban, harbouring Bin Laden, allowing the passage of narcotics and funding training camps so the sons of Allah can blow us up.

The Taliban have told the Pakistani government not to accept any aid from the west:-

The Taliban yesterday told Pakistan’s beleaguered government that it should not accept any Western aid donated for the country’s millions of flood victims.

The extraordinary demand came as Pakistan appealed for more international aid for victims of the disaster, whose numbers have risen to 14million.

Donations from Britain have passed the £12million mark.

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This is to be expected of the Taliban, they say they can provide all the help that is needed - so be it - let them do it - this does have a downside, the Taliban would not allow aid to go to any of the Christians that may be affected, indeed the probability of this happening with the aid from the west is high - irrespective of the Talibans claims.

The only way to ensure that aid is not refused Christian or any other non Muslim is to donate to the Barnabus Trust